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[Planescape] Squaring the Circle Redux - OOC (Full)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sephiroth no Miko" data-source="post: 1765859" data-attributes="member: 4796"><p>I took a look at this PrC a few days ago, and thought it fairly reasonable (with one hound companion every 2 levels, not every level) but I took a look at the 2nd version today after Isida posted that she updated it and whoa! it's gotten a lot buffer. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>I don't have an issue with the bonded hound being +4 hound master level, though I do fret a little at the buffness of each of the hound companions at hound master = druid level. I understand your argument about how lower HD creatures don't present a whole lot of threat to powerful creatures at higher levels, Ferrix, but they are certainly still quite a bit more useful than mere normal riding dogs! If nothing else, they can occupy and hurt minions that would otherwise be harassing the Hound Master or the party. However, since it a core concept to the Hound Master, and I'm only borderline ambivalent about it, I think we can just leave it the way it is.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, I do think that Isida should have taken out an ability when she switched Hound's Bound for Full Mounted Attack (which IMO is stronger the former, since you don't even have to charge to get the benefits of a full-attack action) and added Baying of the Pack. The Hound Master already gets the benefit of a special mount, plus up to 5 companions, that a whole lot of special abilities on top seems a little... excessive.</p><p></p><p>In this case, could I request that the Hound Master lose the Pin and Tear ability (which doesn't seem to fit as well with the rest of the theme), and change the Baying of the Hounds to the equivalent of a <em>fear</em> spell (30 ft. cone, 14 + Cha mod), at least for the purposes of this campaign?</p><p></p><p>Also, a question on the One Pack, One Mind ability. It says that the Hound Master has to be within 10 feet of his bonded mount or a pack member for this to function. Does that mean it only works for the the Hound Master and the dogs he is near? Or does it include all this other dogs, no matter how far away? Why not change it to something more rules-friendly, like saying all dogs within a certain radius (20 feet maybe?) of the Hound Master are not flanked unless they all are (more in line with the Hive Mind ability, which I assume this is based off of)? Any dog outside that radius can be flanked as usual (as can the Hound Master if none of his dogs are closeby).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sephiroth no Miko, post: 1765859, member: 4796"] I took a look at this PrC a few days ago, and thought it fairly reasonable (with one hound companion every 2 levels, not every level) but I took a look at the 2nd version today after Isida posted that she updated it and whoa! it's gotten a lot buffer. :eek: I don't have an issue with the bonded hound being +4 hound master level, though I do fret a little at the buffness of each of the hound companions at hound master = druid level. I understand your argument about how lower HD creatures don't present a whole lot of threat to powerful creatures at higher levels, Ferrix, but they are certainly still quite a bit more useful than mere normal riding dogs! If nothing else, they can occupy and hurt minions that would otherwise be harassing the Hound Master or the party. However, since it a core concept to the Hound Master, and I'm only borderline ambivalent about it, I think we can just leave it the way it is. OTOH, I do think that Isida should have taken out an ability when she switched Hound's Bound for Full Mounted Attack (which IMO is stronger the former, since you don't even have to charge to get the benefits of a full-attack action) and added Baying of the Pack. The Hound Master already gets the benefit of a special mount, plus up to 5 companions, that a whole lot of special abilities on top seems a little... excessive. In this case, could I request that the Hound Master lose the Pin and Tear ability (which doesn't seem to fit as well with the rest of the theme), and change the Baying of the Hounds to the equivalent of a [i]fear[/i] spell (30 ft. cone, 14 + Cha mod), at least for the purposes of this campaign? Also, a question on the One Pack, One Mind ability. It says that the Hound Master has to be within 10 feet of his bonded mount or a pack member for this to function. Does that mean it only works for the the Hound Master and the dogs he is near? Or does it include all this other dogs, no matter how far away? Why not change it to something more rules-friendly, like saying all dogs within a certain radius (20 feet maybe?) of the Hound Master are not flanked unless they all are (more in line with the Hive Mind ability, which I assume this is based off of)? Any dog outside that radius can be flanked as usual (as can the Hound Master if none of his dogs are closeby). [/QUOTE]
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