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<blockquote data-quote="Harzel" data-source="post: 6990203" data-attributes="member: 6857506">Apologies in advance for taking off on what might seem like a tangent, but, if you will indulge me, I'd like to back you up and ask a few questions about your premise.Does this mean that the magic item is in the dungeon or that the magic item is needed to access the dungeon?&nbsp; (There are two different ways to parse &quot;give them access to a dungeon with a powerful magical item&quot;.)Assuming that the magic item is in the dungeon (since that seems to me to be the more likely reading), is the idea that the PCs want to get into the dungeon in order to acquire the magic item?Assuming that the answer to that is &quot;yes&quot;, then I get to what I really want to know: why do the PCs want the magic item?&nbsp; This is not an idle question; I would think that this might play an important role in their discussion with the ruler.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Harzel, post: 6990203, member: 6857506"] Apologies in advance for taking off on what might seem like a tangent, but, if you will indulge me, I'd like to back you up and ask a few questions about your premise. Does this mean that the magic item is in the dungeon or that the magic item is needed to access the dungeon? (There are two different ways to parse "give them access to a dungeon with a powerful magical item".) Assuming that the magic item is in the dungeon (since that seems to me to be the more likely reading), is the idea that the PCs want to get into the dungeon in order to acquire the magic item? Assuming that the answer to that is "yes", then I get to what I really want to know: why do the PCs want the magic item? This is not an idle question; I would think that this might play an important role in their discussion with the ruler. [/QUOTE]

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