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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9895337" data-attributes="member: 23751">I can be engaged with the game without playing the game, as an observer for instance.  However, I cannot be playing the game without being engaged with it.  If I'm at the table and not engaged, I'm just a lump taking up space.Engagement is a necessary element for play, like the DM being healthy enough to run the game, players showing up, etc., but that doesn't mean that it's more important than play. I think your sports example is flawed, because it's overly narrow.  You can say that professional sports play wouldn't exist without the engagement of fans and therefore engagement is paramount to professional sports play, but you can't say that the game of football wouldn't exist without the engagement of fans, so engagement isn't paramount for playing football.RPGs are a group social activity that we do presumably to have fun. We don't need the engagement of others like Critical Roll does in order to play the game. If we are playing and enjoying that play, we have achieved that goal.</blockquote>