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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7997323" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>First off, Celtavian, do you see (and agree) to the notion "PF2 is much much more cluttery than 5E"?</p><p></p><p>Assuming you're on board this, you should have no trouble agreeing with me when I say "PF2 will never be near as successful as 5E regardless of advertising".</p><p></p><p>In other words, it isn't the lack of branding or advertising dollars that is missing. What's missing is an accessible game. That is, if the competition were 4E or PF1, then yes, PF2 can be viewed as an improvement. </p><p></p><p>But the competition isn't 4E or PF1.</p><p></p><p>tl;dr: The success of 5E might involve luck or marketing, but let's not forget that all this is enabled by 5E shedding a lot of D&D crud accumulated since 1E. (And I'm saying this as someone who LIKES crud <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7997323, member: 12731"] First off, Celtavian, do you see (and agree) to the notion "PF2 is much much more cluttery than 5E"? Assuming you're on board this, you should have no trouble agreeing with me when I say "PF2 will never be near as successful as 5E regardless of advertising". In other words, it isn't the lack of branding or advertising dollars that is missing. What's missing is an accessible game. That is, if the competition were 4E or PF1, then yes, PF2 can be viewed as an improvement. But the competition isn't 4E or PF1. tl;dr: The success of 5E might involve luck or marketing, but let's not forget that all this is enabled by 5E shedding a lot of D&D crud accumulated since 1E. (And I'm saying this as someone who LIKES crud ;) ) [/QUOTE]
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