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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5625587" data-attributes="member: 71571">Forced movement is defined as any push, pull, or slide.  As an example, there are powers that let you shift, and then slide the player.  The player is under forced movement, and therefore benefits from not provoking OAs.Convenience does not stop the push, pull, or slide from being a push, pull, or slide.  Forced movement is any push, pull, or slide.  Therefore it's still forced movement.Defined game term is defined.Because you're taking a defined game term literally, and redefining it to suit your argument.  Game terms are not literal.Citation needed.  There are plenty of powers which explicitly slide your allies.  Page 42But you've allowed movement to occur outside of that anyways.  So, you have to define what sort of movement that is.If it's a regular move or a shift, the one moving decides the location to go to.  Otherwise, it's forced movement.Really, that's the real question:  Who decided where the move would go.  Was it the player going 'I want to move you from here to there' or was it a 'I want to let you move where you like.'The former is forced movement, as the one moving is not given the choice of where to move to or whether to move at all.  It being beneficial to him is completely irrelevant to that primary point.</blockquote>