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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 32976" data-attributes="member: 78">Technically, the ranger's virtual 2 weapon feats don't work with double weapons.&nbsp; However, allowing them to work isn't a major issue.I'd make the player switch out one of his current feats for the exotic weapon proficiency.&nbsp; His first two attacks should be at -2 each and the thrid should be at -7.&nbsp; If he says he has no penalties, he's lying or stupid.Primary Head attack 1:+7 base (lvl 7 ranger) +STR mod +primary head weapon mod +misc. feats (ie weapon focus) -2 two weapon penalty = +5 + feats +magic +abilityDmg: 1d8 +STR +magic Off hand attack 1:+5 +STR +second magic +featsDmg: 1d6 +.5*STR +second magicPrimary head attack 2:0 +STR +magic +featsDmg: see #1For example, if said character had 18 STR, a +2/+1 thingy, and weapon focus, he'd attack as follows:Primary 1:&nbsp; +12 melee Dmg: 1d8+6Secondary 1: +11 melee Dmg: 1d6+3Primary 2:&nbsp; +7 melee Dmg: 1d8+6Keep in mind that he can only use these attacks when making a Full Attack Action.&nbsp; If he charges, or moves more than 5 ft to reach the target, he can only get one attack.&nbsp; Of course that attack can treated as a more favorable 2 handed attack instead of a 2 weapon attack.With the same stats, his 2 handed attack would look like+14 melee Dmg 1d8+8Keep in mind that Haste is used quite often by adventuring groups, and can do crazy things to movement and attacks.&nbsp; For example, if this character was within normal move distance of an enemy and was hasted, he could perform a partial charge, and then a full attack.&nbsp; Ouch.-------------------------------------------------------------Attempt to find a player you can trust, and set that person keep track of rules, look stuff up, and make sure everyone's character is legal.&nbsp; Also, collecting people's character sheets at the end of each session allows you to double check all their stats and make adjustments.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 32976, member: 78"] Technically, the ranger's virtual 2 weapon feats don't work with double weapons. However, allowing them to work isn't a major issue. I'd make the player switch out one of his current feats for the exotic weapon proficiency. His first two attacks should be at -2 each and the thrid should be at -7. If he says he has no penalties, he's lying or stupid. Primary Head attack 1: +7 base (lvl 7 ranger) +STR mod +primary head weapon mod +misc. feats (ie weapon focus) -2 two weapon penalty = +5 + feats +magic +ability Dmg: 1d8 +STR +magic Off hand attack 1: +5 +STR +second magic +feats Dmg: 1d6 +.5*STR +second magic Primary head attack 2: 0 +STR +magic +feats Dmg: see #1 For example, if said character had 18 STR, a +2/+1 thingy, and weapon focus, he'd attack as follows: Primary 1: +12 melee Dmg: 1d8+6 Secondary 1: +11 melee Dmg: 1d6+3 Primary 2: +7 melee Dmg: 1d8+6 Keep in mind that he can only use these attacks when making a Full Attack Action. If he charges, or moves more than 5 ft to reach the target, he can only get one attack. Of course that attack can treated as a more favorable 2 handed attack instead of a 2 weapon attack. With the same stats, his 2 handed attack would look like +14 melee Dmg 1d8+8 Keep in mind that Haste is used quite often by adventuring groups, and can do crazy things to movement and attacks. For example, if this character was within normal move distance of an enemy and was hasted, he could perform a partial charge, and then a full attack. Ouch. ------------------------------------------------------------- Attempt to find a player you can trust, and set that person keep track of rules, look stuff up, and make sure everyone's character is legal. Also, collecting people's character sheets at the end of each session allows you to double check all their stats and make adjustments. [/QUOTE]

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