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<blockquote data-quote="trimeulose" data-source="post: 33273" data-attributes="member: 1527">he's not power gaming.Power gaming is making a character that uses his abilities to the fullest. An eleven wizard is an example of this. The wizard is prof with lonsword or rapier +bows this makes the wizard class unbalanced slightly but by very little.Another fine example of this is the human fighter/weapon master. Since he is human and a fighter, weapon master can be achieved with an exotic weapon in six levels. Give him a mercurial greatsword and watch out.People complain about powergamers because they cant do anything about them except flat out deny them a race or class. The only way to get rid of a powergamed character is to start another game.Cheaters and rules abusers are quite different. They &quot;forget&quot; rules that penalize them, and make up others so that they can have things that are way out of proportion compared to the other PCs and NPCs. The easiest way to deal with them is confrontation. Once they are shown that the rules say that they cant do action X or that they must do Action Y, they cuss and cuss and tell you that you are a bad DM (but they know there is nothing they can do about it). Just hold your ground and they'll shut up, if they don't then they can leave.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="trimeulose, post: 33273, member: 1527"] he's not power gaming. Power gaming is making a character that uses his abilities to the fullest. An eleven wizard is an example of this. The wizard is prof with lonsword or rapier +bows this makes the wizard class unbalanced slightly but by very little. Another fine example of this is the human fighter/weapon master. Since he is human and a fighter, weapon master can be achieved with an exotic weapon in six levels. Give him a mercurial greatsword and watch out. People complain about powergamers because they cant do anything about them except flat out deny them a race or class. The only way to get rid of a powergamed character is to start another game. Cheaters and rules abusers are quite different. They "forget" rules that penalize them, and make up others so that they can have things that are way out of proportion compared to the other PCs and NPCs. The easiest way to deal with them is confrontation. Once they are shown that the rules say that they cant do action X or that they must do Action Y, they cuss and cuss and tell you that you are a bad DM (but they know there is nothing they can do about it). Just hold your ground and they'll shut up, if they don't then they can leave. [/QUOTE]

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