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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 8044847" data-attributes="member: 67296">Yes, it's a good vs evil issue, the fact that the character is a paladin immaterial to the ethics involved here. As you say, any character with a good alignment would have taken offence, regardless of their class. But I'm not in this thread to put the PCs or the DM on trial. I'm proposing a solution that I think this particular DM can apply with this particular group of players.But the fact that a paladin is involved is relevant to the situation because the OP opens the post with admitting that they don't like paladins because they are knuckleheads, at least it their eyes, and seems to blame the code for that. Thus addressing the code...As to why play a paladin if the code is evacuated or downplayed? Because it has nice mechanics to play? Like people play warlocks without going about the loss of their soul all the time, or people play a cleric without observing a strict dogma and taboos.why play a devotion paladin instead of, say, vengeance paladin in their case? Because the player wanted a change and got it as the DM says, which in retrospect seems like it was too much of a change for the group. From what I gather from the OP, corrections are necessary. There are many corrections possible, many have been suggested, I tried to contribute positively without repeating what people said before.</blockquote>