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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8046218" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>The chaotic neutral is a self serving egoist that cares only for him. For me, Deadpool is evil. Not neutral one iota.</p><p>I see chaotic neutral as a person that goes on whims of immediate self gratification. The chaotic neutral will have trouble keeping money for long therm investment such as building a castle, a temple etc... The only reason a CN is not a psychopath killer is the Neutral aspect. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And rightly so. You tried to impose the view your world into mine. You decided that orcs were not evil monsters bend on destruction. You see, orcs are the servants of evil deities and they do so because they have no choice in my world (and even if they could do otherwise they would not. An orc would simply be killed on the spot by his fellows for "good" behaviors). Had you listened and played along that after hundred of years of constant raid and warfare, a country decided that any orc along its border would be killed, you would have understood. BUT you decided that the orcs you were sparing were Eberron style orcs. On Eberron, your paladin would have been praised for his actions. IN my Greyhawk, you would only have allowed evil monsters to retreat to breed more of themselve so that they would come and kill more innocents. Innocents blood that you would have on your hands. I clearly said that orcs in my current game were evil to core. But you decided to apply your visions of orcs as a free willed species which they are not in my games. They are just mortal demons in my games and I had been clear about that.</p><p></p><p>I may not see things as you wish me to. You seems to have bone to pick on me by citing me everywhere there is morally ambiguous things. If so, I invite you to a private chat. Otherwise, I would like you to stop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8046218, member: 6855114"] The chaotic neutral is a self serving egoist that cares only for him. For me, Deadpool is evil. Not neutral one iota. I see chaotic neutral as a person that goes on whims of immediate self gratification. The chaotic neutral will have trouble keeping money for long therm investment such as building a castle, a temple etc... The only reason a CN is not a psychopath killer is the Neutral aspect. And rightly so. You tried to impose the view your world into mine. You decided that orcs were not evil monsters bend on destruction. You see, orcs are the servants of evil deities and they do so because they have no choice in my world (and even if they could do otherwise they would not. An orc would simply be killed on the spot by his fellows for "good" behaviors). Had you listened and played along that after hundred of years of constant raid and warfare, a country decided that any orc along its border would be killed, you would have understood. BUT you decided that the orcs you were sparing were Eberron style orcs. On Eberron, your paladin would have been praised for his actions. IN my Greyhawk, you would only have allowed evil monsters to retreat to breed more of themselve so that they would come and kill more innocents. Innocents blood that you would have on your hands. I clearly said that orcs in my current game were evil to core. But you decided to apply your visions of orcs as a free willed species which they are not in my games. They are just mortal demons in my games and I had been clear about that. I may not see things as you wish me to. You seems to have bone to pick on me by citing me everywhere there is morally ambiguous things. If so, I invite you to a private chat. Otherwise, I would like you to stop. [/QUOTE]
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