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<blockquote data-quote="DammitVictor" data-source="post: 8355239" data-attributes="member: 6750908"><p>You're probably right that my (somewhat dogmatic) terminology obfuscates meaningful decisions, but I would point out that in your exampe, the DM introduces the homestead-- but who went to the homestead? The DM introduces orcs as a consequences of a failed roll, but who failed the roll, who failed the <em>action</em> that introduced the orcs as a consequence?</p><p></p><p>You say that Thurgon and Aramina have to <em>fight off</em> the orcs, but do they? Can they not attempt to evade them, and flee? Can they not attempt to cut a deal with the orcs? Can they not attempt to lure all of the orcs into the homestead before they burn it down with all of them inside?</p><p></p><p>There's an important distinction to be had between "player authored" and "DM authored" content, and it's a blurry enough line without my refusing to acknowledge it. But it's likewise an important <em>perspective</em> for both official and homebrew adventure design that players can choose to engage with content, regardless of who authors it, in any way they please-- up to and including declining to engage with it at all. It's an important perspective to remember that players and PCs are not <em>supposed</em> to do anything, and should not be <em>expected</em> to do anything, except show up to the table willing to do <em>something</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitVictor, post: 8355239, member: 6750908"] You're probably right that my (somewhat dogmatic) terminology obfuscates meaningful decisions, but I would point out that in your exampe, the DM introduces the homestead-- but who went to the homestead? The DM introduces orcs as a consequences of a failed roll, but who failed the roll, who failed the [I]action[/I] that introduced the orcs as a consequence? You say that Thurgon and Aramina have to [I]fight off[/I] the orcs, but do they? Can they not attempt to evade them, and flee? Can they not attempt to cut a deal with the orcs? Can they not attempt to lure all of the orcs into the homestead before they burn it down with all of them inside? There's an important distinction to be had between "player authored" and "DM authored" content, and it's a blurry enough line without my refusing to acknowledge it. But it's likewise an important [I]perspective[/I] for both official and homebrew adventure design that players can choose to engage with content, regardless of who authors it, in any way they please-- up to and including declining to engage with it at all. It's an important perspective to remember that players and PCs are not [I]supposed[/I] to do anything, and should not be [I]expected[/I] to do anything, except show up to the table willing to do [I]something[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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