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<blockquote data-quote="BobTheNob" data-source="post: 5404516" data-attributes="member: 82425"><p>I think first and foremost the thing to understand is that you are not alone. People like this is exist, and once you have DM'd for long enough, you are bound to encounter at least one. Its just part of the process.</p><p></p><p>In a room full of satisfied players, you have one guy who is a problem. Unfortunately for you, as DM, you own the problem. The truth is, he is childish. Hes that guy in the yard that when you play tag refuses to believe he got touched, and if he is ever "it" will run you down and slam you into a wall. He doesnt play the game for the fun of it, he plays because he has to feel on top of the circle he is in, and D&D provides an outlet for this in a way he understands. Again, hes the guy with the problem, but your the guy who owns it.</p><p></p><p>I am also betting that his life is substandard outside of the game, and that he is lashing out within the context of the game, because that is something he feels he can control.</p><p></p><p>In our current group, we had a player like that. In a six man party we had 5 guys playing the game, and one guy arguing every point, optimizing the crap out of his characters to the point of invalidating everyone elses. Sound familiar? Well, one night he disagreed with one of my decisions (I wasnt allowing Aid other on one particular skill roll) and stormed out the door (which everyone thought was rediculous). We then spent a year without this player and everything went very smoothly. He has rejoined us since, and he is a changed man (he had alot of issues outside of the game which he is sorting out. I think he recognized his behavior in game was a reflection of this and I can happily say he is working it though)</p><p></p><p>My earlier point about childish behavior. Thats exactly what it was. I, as DM, set a boundary which went against his desires, and he refused to accept it. So, much like a child, he stormed from the room.</p><p></p><p>So, my advice. Lookup child psychology websites and see what they have to say. Set your boundries and set em hard. Let him know that you are DM and your decisions stick. Its not a dogmatic regime, its a response to his behavior. If he likes it, he will come back in line, if he doesnt he will walk.</p><p></p><p>BTW. Dont concede to this guys desire to DM. I know the archtype, I have met them MANY times in the past, and they do make terrible DM's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BobTheNob, post: 5404516, member: 82425"] I think first and foremost the thing to understand is that you are not alone. People like this is exist, and once you have DM'd for long enough, you are bound to encounter at least one. Its just part of the process. In a room full of satisfied players, you have one guy who is a problem. Unfortunately for you, as DM, you own the problem. The truth is, he is childish. Hes that guy in the yard that when you play tag refuses to believe he got touched, and if he is ever "it" will run you down and slam you into a wall. He doesnt play the game for the fun of it, he plays because he has to feel on top of the circle he is in, and D&D provides an outlet for this in a way he understands. Again, hes the guy with the problem, but your the guy who owns it. I am also betting that his life is substandard outside of the game, and that he is lashing out within the context of the game, because that is something he feels he can control. In our current group, we had a player like that. In a six man party we had 5 guys playing the game, and one guy arguing every point, optimizing the crap out of his characters to the point of invalidating everyone elses. Sound familiar? Well, one night he disagreed with one of my decisions (I wasnt allowing Aid other on one particular skill roll) and stormed out the door (which everyone thought was rediculous). We then spent a year without this player and everything went very smoothly. He has rejoined us since, and he is a changed man (he had alot of issues outside of the game which he is sorting out. I think he recognized his behavior in game was a reflection of this and I can happily say he is working it though) My earlier point about childish behavior. Thats exactly what it was. I, as DM, set a boundary which went against his desires, and he refused to accept it. So, much like a child, he stormed from the room. So, my advice. Lookup child psychology websites and see what they have to say. Set your boundries and set em hard. Let him know that you are DM and your decisions stick. Its not a dogmatic regime, its a response to his behavior. If he likes it, he will come back in line, if he doesnt he will walk. BTW. Dont concede to this guys desire to DM. I know the archtype, I have met them MANY times in the past, and they do make terrible DM's. [/QUOTE]
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