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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 6809098" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>There seem to me to be two scenarios at play here:</p><p></p><p>1) Arcane trickster wants to take Sleep when he goes up a level, and wants to justify it by saying he 'learned' the spell from the wizard.</p><p></p><p>Since the arcane trickster learns spells from the wizard list, this is really more of a 'fluff' thing and has no mechanical impact. It may mean something to the players involved as a role-playing thing, so there's no real reason to ban this unless it would cause issues within the game (though what those issues might be, I can't really say).</p><p></p><p>2) Arcane Trickster wants to learn Sleep from the wizard and have it count as a known spell in excess of the normal number of spells the arcane trickster knows.</p><p></p><p>A DM could choose to allow this, but shouldn't -- it both breaks the balance between the wizard and arcane trickster classes and sets a precedent that the arcane trickster should be able to do this with higher level spells as well. If you as the DM do not want to allow this, but the arcane trickster complains that he can teach the wizard spells to put in his spellbook, point out (in the 'Your Spellbook' sidebar in the Player's Handbook) that this isn't how wizard spellbooks work in 5E -- a wizard can only scribe spells into her spellbook that are written down (usually from a spell scroll or from another wizard's spellbook), and only the wizard herself can scribe spells into her spellbook. Since player characters can't write spell scrolls, there's no way for the arcane trickster to 'give' one of his spells to the wizard, thus no need for the wizard to be able to 'give back' spells to the arcane trickster.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 6809098, member: 17607"] There seem to me to be two scenarios at play here: 1) Arcane trickster wants to take Sleep when he goes up a level, and wants to justify it by saying he 'learned' the spell from the wizard. Since the arcane trickster learns spells from the wizard list, this is really more of a 'fluff' thing and has no mechanical impact. It may mean something to the players involved as a role-playing thing, so there's no real reason to ban this unless it would cause issues within the game (though what those issues might be, I can't really say). 2) Arcane Trickster wants to learn Sleep from the wizard and have it count as a known spell in excess of the normal number of spells the arcane trickster knows. A DM could choose to allow this, but shouldn't -- it both breaks the balance between the wizard and arcane trickster classes and sets a precedent that the arcane trickster should be able to do this with higher level spells as well. If you as the DM do not want to allow this, but the arcane trickster complains that he can teach the wizard spells to put in his spellbook, point out (in the 'Your Spellbook' sidebar in the Player's Handbook) that this isn't how wizard spellbooks work in 5E -- a wizard can only scribe spells into her spellbook that are written down (usually from a spell scroll or from another wizard's spellbook), and only the wizard herself can scribe spells into her spellbook. Since player characters can't write spell scrolls, there's no way for the arcane trickster to 'give' one of his spells to the wizard, thus no need for the wizard to be able to 'give back' spells to the arcane trickster. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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