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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 2553739" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>IMC, a goblin whose parents were slain by a paladin, and who was saved by that paladin, and raised by a bugbear king who made peace with the humans . . . that's some cool, complex stuff going on. The goblin kid could turn out many, many different ways.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Leave them to their own devices would be the usual answer. Again, I don't know why there were no female survivors to raise the kiddies. Or at least non-toddlers. Every goblin the equivalent of a 7 year old or older is dead? What happened to the equivalent of 7-12 year kiddies, too young too fight, but old enough to find their own food if need be? If they are all toddlers, giving them to the bugbear king to raise is the least evil alternative.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I read it after I posted. Opps. I think this argument comes down to differences in real world philosophy, as reflected in DMing style. In the real world, I think moral relativism is crap, and so my game definition of good and evil is also absolute, which is just me plus I also think it's more fun and classically heroic. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In a fantasy world, an abandoned baby doesn't NECESSARILY die -- think of Romulus and Remus, or Oedipus and I think a few other Greek heroes, or Moses in his basket . . . </p><p></p><p>However, I'll agree with you, which is perhaps your point, that the moral obligation to goblins is lower, IMHO, because they are inherently INCLINED towards evil. But it's not so low that you can bayonet their babies, or boil them alive for kicks, IMHO. So, collateral damage is regretable but acceptable (neutral), abandoning goblin babes in the wood is acceptable but regretable (neutral), bringing them to be raised by druids or good goblins is good, bringing them to be raised by the bugbear king who has made peace is acceptable and could turn out well or badly (good), and bayoneting them and bragging about is evil.</p><p></p><p>I talk too much. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 2553739, member: 25619"] IMC, a goblin whose parents were slain by a paladin, and who was saved by that paladin, and raised by a bugbear king who made peace with the humans . . . that's some cool, complex stuff going on. The goblin kid could turn out many, many different ways. Leave them to their own devices would be the usual answer. Again, I don't know why there were no female survivors to raise the kiddies. Or at least non-toddlers. Every goblin the equivalent of a 7 year old or older is dead? What happened to the equivalent of 7-12 year kiddies, too young too fight, but old enough to find their own food if need be? If they are all toddlers, giving them to the bugbear king to raise is the least evil alternative. I read it after I posted. Opps. I think this argument comes down to differences in real world philosophy, as reflected in DMing style. In the real world, I think moral relativism is crap, and so my game definition of good and evil is also absolute, which is just me plus I also think it's more fun and classically heroic. In a fantasy world, an abandoned baby doesn't NECESSARILY die -- think of Romulus and Remus, or Oedipus and I think a few other Greek heroes, or Moses in his basket . . . However, I'll agree with you, which is perhaps your point, that the moral obligation to goblins is lower, IMHO, because they are inherently INCLINED towards evil. But it's not so low that you can bayonet their babies, or boil them alive for kicks, IMHO. So, collateral damage is regretable but acceptable (neutral), abandoning goblin babes in the wood is acceptable but regretable (neutral), bringing them to be raised by druids or good goblins is good, bringing them to be raised by the bugbear king who has made peace is acceptable and could turn out well or badly (good), and bayoneting them and bragging about is evil. I talk too much. :o [/QUOTE]
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