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<blockquote data-quote="Corben Willemne" data-source="post: 2556840" data-attributes="member: 35717"><p>I have spoken to goblins and their really pissed!!! (sorry king of sarcasm apparently</p><p></p><p>Our group could have the classic components similar to the Lethal Weapon characters but have become embroilled in this pointless debate over a few children.</p><p>The dwarf has his reasons for actin as he does and so does the paladin. I sit back away from all these people and remain detached as the only elf present they all seem to hasty and over emotional to me!</p><p>Don't get me wrong the dwarfs actions are for me unconsionable (or however you spell it) and don not get my support. I just find that this discussion seems to be placing far to much import on berrating the dwarf and not enough on the origional question of what should the paladin do next. Disregarding those who jump on the SMITE HIM HE'S EVIL band wagon there has been little advise.</p><p>My suggestion to the player was to enroll me on his side, I'll steal the dwarfs wand of healing and then everytime he attacks the defenceless the paladin uses it to heal them. This way the dwarf not only does not get his own way but is paying for the lessons! This gives the paladin time to warn the dwarf of the consequences should he persue the course of action and give him ample time to reveal his motivations and to decide to rejoin the light side!!!</p><p>Anyhew the argument has only succeeded in upsetting both the dwarf's player and the DM. Why oh why do people put themselves in these positions? Thats rhetorical btw. As far as I see it the best advice so far is for the player to get together and figure out an entertaining way to move back to being a team. I still advocate that with all these religious types it should be easy as if their all following good gods then surely the dwarf will be bible bashed back into his pre beard days!!!! As i have had to point out to one of the other players these divine classes are not represented in the real world and cannot be compared to priests or the like. They should be held to a much higher set of ideals. Paladins especially. I'm waiting for one of these three divine PC's to take a positive lead in the party and provide the less moral guys with a clear framework to adventure within. Then if someone goes against the groups decision then you can berrate them honestly with the song of we told you so!!!!</p><p></p><p>As my friends mother used to say "I can't see why you just can't all get along and be friends."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corben Willemne, post: 2556840, member: 35717"] I have spoken to goblins and their really pissed!!! (sorry king of sarcasm apparently Our group could have the classic components similar to the Lethal Weapon characters but have become embroilled in this pointless debate over a few children. The dwarf has his reasons for actin as he does and so does the paladin. I sit back away from all these people and remain detached as the only elf present they all seem to hasty and over emotional to me! Don't get me wrong the dwarfs actions are for me unconsionable (or however you spell it) and don not get my support. I just find that this discussion seems to be placing far to much import on berrating the dwarf and not enough on the origional question of what should the paladin do next. Disregarding those who jump on the SMITE HIM HE'S EVIL band wagon there has been little advise. My suggestion to the player was to enroll me on his side, I'll steal the dwarfs wand of healing and then everytime he attacks the defenceless the paladin uses it to heal them. This way the dwarf not only does not get his own way but is paying for the lessons! This gives the paladin time to warn the dwarf of the consequences should he persue the course of action and give him ample time to reveal his motivations and to decide to rejoin the light side!!! Anyhew the argument has only succeeded in upsetting both the dwarf's player and the DM. Why oh why do people put themselves in these positions? Thats rhetorical btw. As far as I see it the best advice so far is for the player to get together and figure out an entertaining way to move back to being a team. I still advocate that with all these religious types it should be easy as if their all following good gods then surely the dwarf will be bible bashed back into his pre beard days!!!! As i have had to point out to one of the other players these divine classes are not represented in the real world and cannot be compared to priests or the like. They should be held to a much higher set of ideals. Paladins especially. I'm waiting for one of these three divine PC's to take a positive lead in the party and provide the less moral guys with a clear framework to adventure within. Then if someone goes against the groups decision then you can berrate them honestly with the song of we told you so!!!! As my friends mother used to say "I can't see why you just can't all get along and be friends." [/QUOTE]
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