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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9416445" data-attributes="member: 42582">Well, I wasn't particularly thinking about a city's defensive wall. I was thinking of a wall around a compound.But there are any number of reasons why a ladder might be found in <this urban place> - someone is trimming a tree, or unblocking a spout, or taking eggs from a nest. Likewise a market stall - in my imagination, at least, a D&D city is going to look more like (say) Nairobi than like (say) Chicago, and in Nairobi market stalls pop up in all sorts of places one might not initially expect.From the point of view of RPG procedures, the question is whose imagination as to what is to be found where is to lead the rest of the table in sharing an imaginary picture of things. This thread is about player-generated fiction as an answer to that question. With the relevant mechanic, in a 4e skill challenge, being a skill check.I personally don't see what it adds to the game to kibosh the players' idea of a market stall, and replace it with the GM's idea of a wagon.This goes to the question of, who is responsible for the focus of action. This thread is about player-generated fiction including the players choosing the focus of action. So I don't think it comes down to what the GM cares about or thinks is important; in the context of this thread, I'm attending to what the players care about and think is important.</blockquote>