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<blockquote data-quote="innerdude" data-source="post: 5663718" data-attributes="member: 85870"><p>So unexpectedly, I've been thrown back into the GM ring for a short Pathfinder mini-campaign.....that from the enthusiastic responses from players so far, may turn into a midi- or maxi-campaign. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p>(I suppose I should be flattered that they asked, and grateful they seem to be immensely enjoying it so far, it's just that I was really enjoying not having to GM, and just playing. Even if it was GURPS, which I'm fairly lukewarm to as a system.) </p><p></p><p>I'm using the Golarion campaign setting, but with home-brew adventures/encounters. </p><p></p><p>And it's been a good run for three sessions now, but last week one of the players said something that sort of "stuck in my craw" (a.k.a., the subject line of this post)--"I need to level up so I can do cool stuff!" </p><p></p><p>And is it just me, or is there something inherently.....not wrong, but disingenuous? Misguided, perhaps, in saying that? </p><p></p><p>Some of it is totally the player. He's a self-acknowledged power-gamer, though between begging for stuff that makes him more "uber" he also manages some decent roleplaying occasionally. </p><p></p><p>But at the same time, this attitude is very much the type of thing I'm frankly sick of dealing with when I roleplay. When he said it, I wish I would have said, "Why is 'doing cool stuff' limited to the stuff that's on your character sheet? You're telling me your character can't explore, interact, plot, discover, and fight using interesting tactics based on your current capabilities? As if suddenly when you get your next feat/spell/class ability you'll suddenly be able to 'play your character' better?" </p><p></p><p>The rest of the group seems to really be into their characters and the group dynamic, and even his attitude isn't that bad, it's just that he's always done this for the 7-8 years we've been playing together off and on, and I think I'm just.....sort of "burnt" on even having to think about it. It's not that the act itself is so egregious, it's the fact that I have to expend any energy at all to counteract it that annoys me. </p><p></p><p>Obviously I'm not going to fundamentally change him as a player, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do circumstantially to get him to temporarily look at his character from a different angle other than, "I can't cast level 3 spells yet, my sorcerer sucks"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="innerdude, post: 5663718, member: 85870"] So unexpectedly, I've been thrown back into the GM ring for a short Pathfinder mini-campaign.....that from the enthusiastic responses from players so far, may turn into a midi- or maxi-campaign. :uhoh: (I suppose I should be flattered that they asked, and grateful they seem to be immensely enjoying it so far, it's just that I was really enjoying not having to GM, and just playing. Even if it was GURPS, which I'm fairly lukewarm to as a system.) I'm using the Golarion campaign setting, but with home-brew adventures/encounters. And it's been a good run for three sessions now, but last week one of the players said something that sort of "stuck in my craw" (a.k.a., the subject line of this post)--"I need to level up so I can do cool stuff!" And is it just me, or is there something inherently.....not wrong, but disingenuous? Misguided, perhaps, in saying that? Some of it is totally the player. He's a self-acknowledged power-gamer, though between begging for stuff that makes him more "uber" he also manages some decent roleplaying occasionally. But at the same time, this attitude is very much the type of thing I'm frankly sick of dealing with when I roleplay. When he said it, I wish I would have said, "Why is 'doing cool stuff' limited to the stuff that's on your character sheet? You're telling me your character can't explore, interact, plot, discover, and fight using interesting tactics based on your current capabilities? As if suddenly when you get your next feat/spell/class ability you'll suddenly be able to 'play your character' better?" The rest of the group seems to really be into their characters and the group dynamic, and even his attitude isn't that bad, it's just that he's always done this for the 7-8 years we've been playing together off and on, and I think I'm just.....sort of "burnt" on even having to think about it. It's not that the act itself is so egregious, it's the fact that I have to expend any energy at all to counteract it that annoys me. Obviously I'm not going to fundamentally change him as a player, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do circumstantially to get him to temporarily look at his character from a different angle other than, "I can't cast level 3 spells yet, my sorcerer sucks"? [/QUOTE]
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