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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5146641" data-attributes="member: 80487">That's nice. It's not the issue.The issue is your conflating it with &quot;sandbox gaming&quot;, and taking jabs at that in ways that just do not hold up to even cursory examination.Look, here's the bottom line from first-hand experience: Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, I played in and refereed both campaigns and modules.It very simply was not the &quot;either-or&quot; matter that you presented. It was not necessary to shove a potted &quot;adventure&quot; into a campaign in order to play it, just because there happened also to be campaigns!Nor was it necessary to rely only on &quot;home brewed&quot; material for a &quot;sandbox&quot;. The City State of the Invincible Overlord is a pretty splendid shared experience, and there are plenty more in the Wilderlands!The one option that was not feasible for my gang was to play only modules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5146641, member: 80487"] That's nice. It's not the issue. The issue is your conflating it with "sandbox gaming", and taking jabs at [i]that[/i] in ways that just do not hold up to even cursory examination. Look, here's the bottom line from first-hand experience: Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, I played in and refereed [b]both[/b] campaigns [b]and[/b] modules. It very simply was not the "either-or" matter that you presented. It was not necessary to shove a potted "adventure" into a campaign in order to play it, just because there happened also to be campaigns! Nor was it necessary to rely only on "home brewed" material for a "sandbox". The City State of the Invincible Overlord is a pretty splendid shared experience, and there are plenty more in the Wilderlands! The one option that was not feasible for my gang was to play [b]only[/b] modules. [/QUOTE]

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