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<blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6863174" data-attributes="member: 82779"><p>I love playing non-traditional characters myself, but my first piece of advice would be to hold off on allowing significant departures from the default until you are familiar with 5e. Every edition has its own quirks and features, and becoming acquainted with those will help you make decisions about what you can and cannot allow. That said, as long as your players are open to your making tweaks to the character's vampire abilities as you discover what is and is not too much, you could dive in right away.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a few things in there that I take issue with:</p><p></p><p>#1: players restricted to the PHB.</p><p>As long as the DM approves it, players should be able to use whatever source of material they wish, regardless of whether it's the PHB, the DMG, 3rd party products, or the MM.</p><p></p><p>#2: a monster character ruins a serious game.</p><p>Seriousness is a matter of tone. You can absolutely have a serious tone and have a monster PC (or monster PCs).</p><p></p><p>#3: that it's a mistake to allow a monster PC.</p><p>That sounds fairly judgmental about something that is really just a matter of preference. I can see how it could be a mistake to make a drastic departure from the default rules when a DM is just coming back to D&D, and is doing so with a new edition. However, that's a matter of rules familiarity, and knowing how the game flows and plays, not a matter of monster PCs just flat out being a mistake.</p><p></p><p>#4: The vampire OR D&D comment.</p><p>This edges awfully close to the "play something else if you want that kind of game" comment that is often seen in regard to settings or other options. I'm sure people can (and probably have) said the following:</p><p>"If you want a horror game, play WoD or CoC instead of shoehorning it into D&D with Ravenloft."</p><p>"If you want a post apocalyptic game, play D20 Apocalypse instead of shoehorning it into D&D with Dark Sun."</p><p>"If you want a Warlord so bad, then play 4e and stop trying to cram one into _____ edition."</p><p>"If you want rules for PCs running a business then play Accountants & Auditors not D&D."</p><p>etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaPilot, post: 6863174, member: 82779"] I love playing non-traditional characters myself, but my first piece of advice would be to hold off on allowing significant departures from the default until you are familiar with 5e. Every edition has its own quirks and features, and becoming acquainted with those will help you make decisions about what you can and cannot allow. That said, as long as your players are open to your making tweaks to the character's vampire abilities as you discover what is and is not too much, you could dive in right away. There's a few things in there that I take issue with: #1: players restricted to the PHB. As long as the DM approves it, players should be able to use whatever source of material they wish, regardless of whether it's the PHB, the DMG, 3rd party products, or the MM. #2: a monster character ruins a serious game. Seriousness is a matter of tone. You can absolutely have a serious tone and have a monster PC (or monster PCs). #3: that it's a mistake to allow a monster PC. That sounds fairly judgmental about something that is really just a matter of preference. I can see how it could be a mistake to make a drastic departure from the default rules when a DM is just coming back to D&D, and is doing so with a new edition. However, that's a matter of rules familiarity, and knowing how the game flows and plays, not a matter of monster PCs just flat out being a mistake. #4: The vampire OR D&D comment. This edges awfully close to the "play something else if you want that kind of game" comment that is often seen in regard to settings or other options. I'm sure people can (and probably have) said the following: "If you want a horror game, play WoD or CoC instead of shoehorning it into D&D with Ravenloft." "If you want a post apocalyptic game, play D20 Apocalypse instead of shoehorning it into D&D with Dark Sun." "If you want a Warlord so bad, then play 4e and stop trying to cram one into _____ edition." "If you want rules for PCs running a business then play Accountants & Auditors not D&D." etc. [/QUOTE]
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