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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8059051">The thread has me more convinced than ever that the &quot;no player knowledge&quot; stance is a house of cards built on a foundation of emotion and nostalgia, with maybe some reinforcing rods made of gatekeeping.&nbsp; As each of the arguments is dismantled, it always comes back to some variant of &quot;But it's just WRONG&quot;.&nbsp; As if repeating their mindless assertions makes them valid.As I said upthread, they sound just like the freestyle skateboarders of the late 70's, upset and offended that the newcomers were completely disrespecting their tradition of doing dorky tricks on flat pavement, and instead were doing freaking aerials out of empty swimming pools.Or think about each of the major shifts in art history.&nbsp; It's always the old guard sticking their noses in the air saying the new stuff &quot;isn't art&quot;, invoking their seniority as it provides validity to their arguments, but their only real defense is tautology.&nbsp; &quot;It's not art because I am an artist and I say so.&quot;&nbsp; (Never mind when comic books became an art form.)You see it over and over and over again, in every art, profession, academic discipline, sport, hobby, etc.&nbsp; The old guard, opposed to change (in business I've heard them referred to as the &quot;root guards&quot; because they think they are guarding the roots of the organization) try to discredit, not with logic but with insults, the changes that seem to threaten the traditions they hold dear.&nbsp; Even though those traditions don't provide any substantive benefit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 8059051"] The thread has me more convinced than ever that the "no player knowledge" stance is a house of cards built on a foundation of emotion and nostalgia, with maybe some reinforcing rods made of gatekeeping. As each of the arguments is dismantled, it always comes back to some variant of "But it's just WRONG". As if repeating their mindless assertions makes them valid. As I said upthread, they sound just like the freestyle skateboarders of the late 70's, upset and offended that the newcomers were completely disrespecting their tradition of doing dorky tricks on flat pavement, and instead were doing freaking aerials out of empty swimming pools. Or think about each of the major shifts in art history. It's always the old guard sticking their noses in the air saying the new stuff "isn't art", invoking their seniority as it provides validity to their arguments, but their only real defense is tautology. "It's not art because I am an artist and I say so." (Never mind when [I]comic books[/I] became an art form.) You see it over and over and over again, in every art, profession, academic discipline, sport, hobby, etc. The old guard, opposed to change (in business I've heard them referred to as the "root guards" because they think they are guarding the roots of the organization) try to discredit, not with logic but with insults, the changes that seem to threaten the traditions they hold dear. [I]Even though those traditions don't provide any substantive benefit.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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