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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8060740" data-attributes="member: 97077">The rules say a player determines what a character thinks, says, and does. If the player says the character thinks the NPC is a lich or that fire is good to use on trolls, then that's what the character thinks. (It doesn't mean the character is right.) If the player says the character draws upon relevant knowledge or experience to recall if the NPC is a lich or that fire is good to use on trolls, then the DM gets to adjudicate this action and narrate the results. Even if the character can't recall anything useful - either because the roll went poorly or the DM rules automatic failure - the character can still go on thinking the NPC is a lich and can even try to attack the troll with a lit torch.Sure. Claim that it's just your preference, perhaps developed in other games, and I have no argument against that. Have fun however you want and glad to hear it, even if I have criticisms having played that way. Claim that the rules in the current books support this approach? There I will debate you. It's just not there. Now, a D&D 3e book I think you could make the case quite well that it is supported by the rules. Just not this game.</blockquote>