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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8060782">Yes, I do think it's interesting/useful to come up with extreme edge cases, just to see how a system responds.   So even though the scenario you described is bizarre and improbable, I think it can be accommodated just fine.How about your approach?  Let's say somebody shows up at your game and "mysteriously" looks for the secret doors in all the right places, tries just the right attacks on monsters with resistances, checks for traps at just the right times, etc.  But does so with persuasive innocence, claiming to just be really lucky?  How do you handle it?I don't quite understand the problem.  While players bringing in their own foreknowledge will (or really "might") sometimes obviate the need for a roll, there can still be plenty of other occasions where they don't have player knowledge.  Especially if the DM switches things up.Take the gunpowder example.  The low-Int, zero-skill player might say, "Oh I got this.  Equal parts potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur."  So they try it and...lo and behold!...in this game world, that doesn't work.  So now the Wizard with Arcana proficiency says his favorite class in wizard school was pyrotechnics, and he says "I'm pretty sure it's 2 parts dragonbone, 1 part crushed carrior crawler chitin, and a cup of gelatinous cube."  The DM maybe asks for an arcana check, or just decides that the characters proficiency & Intelligence, plus Rule of Cool, means that it works. High Int & proficiency > player knowledge.</blockquote>

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