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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8061779" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>I actually don’t disagree with this. “I think back to the stories Uncle Trollsbane used to tell me to try and remember if there’s a trick to killing them” is an adjudicatable action, and a good way to try and verify any suspicions you might have about troll weaknesses. I just don’t see any support in the rules for the idea that the player <em>must</em> declare such an action as a prerequisite to attacking a troll with fire or acid. Not that such a requirement can’t or shouldn’t be added as a table rule. Just that I don’t see support for it in the game rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that’s something the DM should probably hash out with the players. Personally, if a player said, “I remember my uncle telling me trolls are weak to fire,” without first making a declaration of action to verify that trolls are weak to fire, I’d take that as them establishing that their uncle may not be a reliable source of information. Maybe he was right. Maybe he was telling tall tales. Or maybe your memory is flawed. You can <em>say</em> you remember your uncle saying trolls are weak to fire, but as long as that information is coming from the player’s own head and not from the DM, it’s a risk to assume it’s accurate, because it might well not be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8061779, member: 6779196"] I actually don’t disagree with this. “I think back to the stories Uncle Trollsbane used to tell me to try and remember if there’s a trick to killing them” is an adjudicatable action, and a good way to try and verify any suspicions you might have about troll weaknesses. I just don’t see any support in the rules for the idea that the player [I]must[/I] declare such an action as a prerequisite to attacking a troll with fire or acid. Not that such a requirement can’t or shouldn’t be added as a table rule. Just that I don’t see support for it in the game rules. I think that’s something the DM should probably hash out with the players. Personally, if a player said, “I remember my uncle telling me trolls are weak to fire,” without first making a declaration of action to verify that trolls are weak to fire, I’d take that as them establishing that their uncle may not be a reliable source of information. Maybe he was right. Maybe he was telling tall tales. Or maybe your memory is flawed. You can [I]say[/I] you remember your uncle saying trolls are weak to fire, but as long as that information is coming from the player’s own head and not from the DM, it’s a risk to assume it’s accurate, because it might well not be. [/QUOTE]
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