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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8062673" data-attributes="member: 23751">The only reason that it never takes place due to that specific rule is because the DM adjudicated the situation.  You are literally arguing that if the DM adjudicates a situation by following the rules, he's not adjudicating. That's absurd.  Think about what you are arguing here.Page 5 of the DMG says you're wrong, by the way."Sometimes mediating the rules means setting limits. If a player tells you, "I want to run up and attack the orc," but the character doesn't have enough movement to reach the orc, you say, "It's too far away to move up and still attack. What would you like to do instead?"Here we have a player declaring an action that breaks the rules.  The DM mediates(adjudicates) the rules setting a limit(saying no you can't do that) and then asks for something else.</blockquote>