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<blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1833570" data-attributes="member: 4910">What it comes down to, is that there are two types of DM the original poster could be.A)&nbsp; The DM that is trying to do the best he can and puts a higher priority on the enjoyment of the group over strict adherance to the rules-as-written.&nbsp; &quot;Okay, so your Str 20 half-orc barbarian is chucking a barrel full of grain at the huddle of bandits, as you put it 'Donkey Kong Style'?&nbsp; Alright, uh.. give me a strength check.&nbsp; Okay, and now a ranged touch attack.&nbsp; Cool.&nbsp; OKay, I'm going to handle this like a trip attempt, giving you a +2 for the weight of the barrel, and he can't retaliate.&quot; etc etc.&nbsp; All of this is off the cuff and may contradict some rules (by the rules, for instance, the barrel would just do some damage and not be allowed to knock the target over).&nbsp; But it's done with the Heroic Cool Factor in mind.&nbsp; Is this cool and/or awesome?&nbsp; If yes, then lets find a way to work it in.B)&nbsp; The DM that doesn't give a flying flumph about his players enjoyment, and&nbsp; bends the rules over a barrel just to get a nice ego-stroke from how much power he has over them.&nbsp; And when the rules quoting player tries to stem the flow of suck, said DM throws a fit because his &quot;authority&quot; is not being respected.&nbsp; Despite the fact that by his own actions, the DM hasn't earned any authority... he just thinks he gets it by being the guy behind the screen.Problem is, we don't know if it's (A) or (B) with these guys.&nbsp; If it's (A), then we'd all be saying hooray for the DM, boo-urns for the player.&nbsp; If it's (B), then the opposite.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sejs, post: 1833570, member: 4910"] What it comes down to, is that there are two types of DM the original poster could be. A) The DM that is trying to do the best he can and puts a higher priority on the enjoyment of the group over strict adherance to the rules-as-written. "Okay, so your Str 20 half-orc barbarian is chucking a barrel full of grain at the huddle of bandits, as you put it 'Donkey Kong Style'? Alright, uh.. give me a strength check. Okay, and now a ranged touch attack. Cool. OKay, I'm going to handle this like a trip attempt, giving you a +2 for the weight of the barrel, and he can't retaliate." etc etc. All of this is off the cuff and may contradict some rules (by the rules, for instance, the barrel would just do some damage and not be allowed to knock the target over). But it's done with the Heroic Cool Factor in mind. Is this cool and/or awesome? If yes, then lets find a way to work it in. B) The DM that doesn't give a flying flumph about his players enjoyment, and bends the rules over a barrel just to get a nice ego-stroke from how much power he has over them. And when the rules quoting player tries to stem the flow of suck, said DM throws a fit because his "authority" is not being respected. Despite the fact that by his own actions, the DM hasn't earned any authority... he just thinks he gets it by being the guy behind the screen. Problem is, we don't know if it's (A) or (B) with these guys. If it's (A), then we'd all be saying hooray for the DM, boo-urns for the player. If it's (B), then the opposite. [/QUOTE]

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