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Message: <blockquote data-quote="likuidice" data-source="post: 1560661" data-attributes="member: 12040">*grumbles*right, finally found this thread.I'm the player in question.I have a few things to add:my choices for my characters focus on whatever the character class is, a rogue gets skill focus move silent etc, a wizard gets spell penetration, and a fighter gets *gasp* combat feats. The problem I have is that the other characters in this group choose feats, classes, skills etc that are not combat oriented, and then complain when my combat characters outshine them in combat. if this was a combat oriented game with little roleplaying, i could see the point, but the other characters have their own niches. I don't complain about the bards massive diplomacy modifier, or the rogues ability to practically vanish with his move silent skill. I do not have a problem with roleplaying. I do however have a problem with being complained about BEHIND MY BACK about the choices that other players have made for their characters. if they want to choose alertness over weapon focus, or bard over fighter, fine, but don't complain at me because I have a fighter who *shock horror* is actually good at fighting. and I sure as hell don't want to hear that my character, who incidentally is behind the other fighter in the group in terms of damage output, is some "twinked out uber-combat-monster" when the other characters in the group totally outstrip me in other situations. in fact, if thats the case, surely I have a legitimate complaint if the other characters diplomacy scores are a few points higher than mine, or the rogue can disarm traps...obviously thats not fair, is it?</blockquote>

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