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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1562410" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>likuidice, you have my sympathy.</p><p></p><p>The way I read it, you're in a group of players and DM that don't care about the gaming side of D&D.</p><p>They don't enjoy cranking thru rulebooks and selecting the best alternatives, and making an effective combat character.</p><p></p><p>They seem to get all they need out of simple exchanges and roleplaying scenes.</p><p></p><p>I've been close to where you are, and I may have a perspective that can help you.</p><p>I'm an unapologetic power-gamer - I strongly believe that these hundreds of pages of rules that are published should be there for a reason. If the group didn't want to follow the rules, they needen't have bought the books, right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I believe that a strong component of the game is making effective combinations of feats, skills, weapons, etc that helps a character to be strong in combat. I prefer to play a hero character that is known for being good in combat. Tales wouldn't be told of a character that 'wasted' feats, most likely. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>While I think my style of play is just fine for me, it is not the style that some of my group prefer. They are similar to your group - roleplayers who don't like to read up on rules.</p><p>What I found out is that there is no good way to get your gaming fix in that kind of group - it will simply be unwelcomed and inappropriate in that kind of game. You need to find a way to modify your style of play, stepping back from the adherence to rules, and just concentrate on the roleplaying aspects of your character.</p><p>Let the combat kind of slide on by - do your part, but let the DM worry about getting the combats resolved without killing a PC.</p><p></p><p>It's not easy to modify your style so drastically, and you may not get as much satisfaction out of playing that way. Which is why I STRONGLY recommend to get your gaming outlet from another source: find a Gladiator Tournament kind of game on the internet. Immerse yourself in some game that uses rules excusively. You'll get satisfied. It just won;t be from your group. Which is fine - different strokes for different folks. Realize you can't change the way a GROUP prefers to play. All you can do is affect your approach.</p><p></p><p>Good luck. Hope this helps you to stay with a group that seems to want to stay together.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1562410, member: 1194"] likuidice, you have my sympathy. The way I read it, you're in a group of players and DM that don't care about the gaming side of D&D. They don't enjoy cranking thru rulebooks and selecting the best alternatives, and making an effective combat character. They seem to get all they need out of simple exchanges and roleplaying scenes. I've been close to where you are, and I may have a perspective that can help you. I'm an unapologetic power-gamer - I strongly believe that these hundreds of pages of rules that are published should be there for a reason. If the group didn't want to follow the rules, they needen't have bought the books, right? ;) I believe that a strong component of the game is making effective combinations of feats, skills, weapons, etc that helps a character to be strong in combat. I prefer to play a hero character that is known for being good in combat. Tales wouldn't be told of a character that 'wasted' feats, most likely. ;) While I think my style of play is just fine for me, it is not the style that some of my group prefer. They are similar to your group - roleplayers who don't like to read up on rules. What I found out is that there is no good way to get your gaming fix in that kind of group - it will simply be unwelcomed and inappropriate in that kind of game. You need to find a way to modify your style of play, stepping back from the adherence to rules, and just concentrate on the roleplaying aspects of your character. Let the combat kind of slide on by - do your part, but let the DM worry about getting the combats resolved without killing a PC. It's not easy to modify your style so drastically, and you may not get as much satisfaction out of playing that way. Which is why I STRONGLY recommend to get your gaming outlet from another source: find a Gladiator Tournament kind of game on the internet. Immerse yourself in some game that uses rules excusively. You'll get satisfied. It just won;t be from your group. Which is fine - different strokes for different folks. Realize you can't change the way a GROUP prefers to play. All you can do is affect your approach. Good luck. Hope this helps you to stay with a group that seems to want to stay together. [/QUOTE]
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