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<blockquote data-quote="DragonLancer" data-source="post: 1573409" data-attributes="member: 11868"><p>Something like that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at it this way, is it fair to Player X if I allow him access to a feat or class, but not Player Y? If theres no reason to restrict them I don’t. I’m sure you don’t either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a difference to outclassing and overshadowing. Outclassing is what fighters do. No argument from me there. But when you have a character (whether fighter or otherwise) who is pulling off damages far in excess of what anyone else can do, that’s not right. Even at 18th level no character (fighter or otherwise) should be pulling off over 105 points of damage on everysingle single attack. That’s epic level stuff.</p><p>And in the last campaign that’s exactlly what Likudice’s cleric character was pulling off! That’s excessive. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Because the fighters are not spellcasters. And yes, I see your point here, but the situation is not black and white. As has been posted (almost to the point of frustration on my part) its not his feat or class choices, its his desire/choice not to play to the level of game that the group enjoys. </p><p></p><p>Your gaming group I’m sure would be happy to have a player like Likudice and his style of play. It works for you and your group. It doesn’t for ours.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you are reading too much into it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But after two years do you not think that he knows the gaming style of the group? Has he not learnt how we play over those couple years? And as Gnomish Tinker said, its not just my group he has upset with his play style, and rules arguing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Optimised is fine. Excessive isn’t. This is the point you are ignoring. No offence, but your nor understanding whats bee said.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And again, that’s not a problem. I am strict on PrC’s for my games and this one was picked because it fits the setting and because its not overpowered. It’s a good class… against Dragons! He gets to use it, not a problem. Never said it was.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I allow only a handful of prestige classes in my game, and the only feats are those from the 3.5 PHB, XPH and from the new Dragonlance setting books (after vetting). Its not like I’m letting players have whatever they want. I don’t run games like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So lets see… dragonslayer isn’t a class that fits the setting? You actually know the DL setting? </p><p>And I allow psionics (and have tied it into the nature of the world/setting) and although rare there are psionic individuals and monsters. Its not unbalancing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We like 3rd edition and prefer it to 1st or 2nd. I appriciate the idea but going backwards isn’t going to help.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me take a moment to point out that there are two issues here. Only one has managed to get air time really. Theres Likuidice’s play style (which I think has been argued back and forth to death) and his rules arguing (which has been largely ignored).</p><p>These two problems combined are the issue. I didn’t come here to seek advice solely on the former.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonLancer, post: 1573409, member: 11868"] Something like that. Look at it this way, is it fair to Player X if I allow him access to a feat or class, but not Player Y? If theres no reason to restrict them I don’t. I’m sure you don’t either. There is a difference to outclassing and overshadowing. Outclassing is what fighters do. No argument from me there. But when you have a character (whether fighter or otherwise) who is pulling off damages far in excess of what anyone else can do, that’s not right. Even at 18th level no character (fighter or otherwise) should be pulling off over 105 points of damage on everysingle single attack. That’s epic level stuff. And in the last campaign that’s exactlly what Likudice’s cleric character was pulling off! That’s excessive. No. Because the fighters are not spellcasters. And yes, I see your point here, but the situation is not black and white. As has been posted (almost to the point of frustration on my part) its not his feat or class choices, its his desire/choice not to play to the level of game that the group enjoys. Your gaming group I’m sure would be happy to have a player like Likudice and his style of play. It works for you and your group. It doesn’t for ours. Then you are reading too much into it. But after two years do you not think that he knows the gaming style of the group? Has he not learnt how we play over those couple years? And as Gnomish Tinker said, its not just my group he has upset with his play style, and rules arguing. Optimised is fine. Excessive isn’t. This is the point you are ignoring. No offence, but your nor understanding whats bee said. And again, that’s not a problem. I am strict on PrC’s for my games and this one was picked because it fits the setting and because its not overpowered. It’s a good class… against Dragons! He gets to use it, not a problem. Never said it was. I allow only a handful of prestige classes in my game, and the only feats are those from the 3.5 PHB, XPH and from the new Dragonlance setting books (after vetting). Its not like I’m letting players have whatever they want. I don’t run games like that. So lets see… dragonslayer isn’t a class that fits the setting? You actually know the DL setting? And I allow psionics (and have tied it into the nature of the world/setting) and although rare there are psionic individuals and monsters. Its not unbalancing. We like 3rd edition and prefer it to 1st or 2nd. I appriciate the idea but going backwards isn’t going to help. Let me take a moment to point out that there are two issues here. Only one has managed to get air time really. Theres Likuidice’s play style (which I think has been argued back and forth to death) and his rules arguing (which has been largely ignored). These two problems combined are the issue. I didn’t come here to seek advice solely on the former. [/QUOTE]
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