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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 1745453" data-attributes="member: 2198">And who determines what special powers get thrown at the PCs?&nbsp; The same person who hands out treasure.I seriously wonder how some of you ever survived playing earlier editions of D&amp;D, when there were no wealth-by-level tables and no CR/EL.Wealth tables and EL are helper tools for the DM to use, or not.&nbsp; They're great for inexperienced DMs.&nbsp; DMs who have been around for a while probably don't need them.&nbsp; Players who bitch and moan because the DM isn't exactly following the guidelines presented in the DMG should offer to stop whining start DMing.Obviously the players and the DM should be on the same page as far as expectations for the game go.&nbsp; Metus, that's something that you need to work out with your players.&nbsp; Maybe you can get them to try something different than what they're used to, or maybe they can convince you to hand out more treasure than you're used to.&nbsp; Or maybe you should step aside and let one of them take over the reins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 1745453, member: 2198"] And who determines what special powers get thrown at the PCs? The same person who hands out treasure. I seriously wonder how some of you ever survived playing earlier editions of D&D, when there were no wealth-by-level tables and no CR/EL. Wealth tables and EL are helper tools for the DM to use, or not. They're great for inexperienced DMs. DMs who have been around for a while probably don't need them. Players who bitch and moan because the DM isn't exactly following the guidelines presented in the DMG should offer to stop whining start DMing. Obviously the players and the DM should be on the same page as far as expectations for the game go. Metus, that's something that you need to work out with your players. Maybe you can get them to try something different than what they're used to, or maybe they can convince you to hand out more treasure than you're used to. Or maybe you should step aside and let one of them take over the reins. [/QUOTE]

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