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<blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 6934360" data-attributes="member: 6777454"><p>That will probably be Orcs, I imagine. There really isn't all that much difference between Gnolls and Orcs besides the fur and claws. Maybe you could argue that Orcs are a bit more civilized.. but both end up with hide armor and, inexplicably, iron or steel weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I noticed on the latest previews... looks like Goblin is going to be specifically a Dex/Cha race... while Hobgoblins are specifically going to be lacking in Charisma.</p><p></p><p>I don't quite get the thought process in that at all. In what way are Goblins Charismatic? They are specifically looked down upon and if they don't stir up aggressive hostile behavior towards them, at best they get away with being below everyone else's contempt. Wisdom would be a better attribute as while they don't have much book learning, to survive they have to be sensible and aware enough of the constant dangers that they manage to see the next day. A goblin lacking in perception or insight isn't going to survive long enough to breed, even with their accelerated lifespans.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, hobgoblins are the bosses among humanoids smaller than giants and when they don't inspire fear and respect, they are only out-politicized by Drow.</p><p></p><p>But... apparently WotC thinks otherwise. The two goblins in the preview both have +2 bonus to intelligence with most other stats being fairly lack-luster and the hobgoblin has good stats across the board except a comparatively crappy Charisma.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenTengu, post: 6934360, member: 6777454"] That will probably be Orcs, I imagine. There really isn't all that much difference between Gnolls and Orcs besides the fur and claws. Maybe you could argue that Orcs are a bit more civilized.. but both end up with hide armor and, inexplicably, iron or steel weapons. I noticed on the latest previews... looks like Goblin is going to be specifically a Dex/Cha race... while Hobgoblins are specifically going to be lacking in Charisma. I don't quite get the thought process in that at all. In what way are Goblins Charismatic? They are specifically looked down upon and if they don't stir up aggressive hostile behavior towards them, at best they get away with being below everyone else's contempt. Wisdom would be a better attribute as while they don't have much book learning, to survive they have to be sensible and aware enough of the constant dangers that they manage to see the next day. A goblin lacking in perception or insight isn't going to survive long enough to breed, even with their accelerated lifespans. Meanwhile, hobgoblins are the bosses among humanoids smaller than giants and when they don't inspire fear and respect, they are only out-politicized by Drow. But... apparently WotC thinks otherwise. The two goblins in the preview both have +2 bonus to intelligence with most other stats being fairly lack-luster and the hobgoblin has good stats across the board except a comparatively crappy Charisma. [/QUOTE]
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