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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 2062730" data-attributes="member: 13098">You know, looking at the class structure I would be very interested in finding out a level-by-level build for this guy.  Loremaster requires 10 ranks in knowledge skills, 3 metamagic/creation feats and 7+ 3rd level or higher divination spells.  That means the PC would need to be 7th level before being elegible for LoreMaster at all.  Since there are only 4 wizard levels, and 2 paragon levels, then the PC must have taken  Mage of the Arcane Order before Loremaster.  Alas, I do not have Complete Arcane, does anybody recall the pre-req for MoAO?  I suspect this is a detail the player overlooked.  He probably checked that he could reach the requirements by 12th level and figured everything was cool.  I see that error often with inexperienced, though enthusiastic, players.  Sir Thorncrest, I would encourage ou to also sit down with the player and go through the level-by-leel advancement process to see how the PC got to where he did.  In the process, encourage him to figure out the events that transpired in the background for the PC.  Somehow the PC has picked up two PrCs and there should be reasons for that development that can be worked into story hooks for your game.  You might doublecheck eerybody's PC in the same way.</blockquote>