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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 1320879" data-attributes="member: 9410">Commiserations!I know how you feel...  The last game I played in, despite my telling the party that my previous gaming experience with an uncooperative party was horrible, and that I was NOT interested in a repeat, we had more of the same...  I posted about it here at ENWorld, asking what to do.  That most respondants said to write the GM a nasty E-mail, and kill the PC.  I, too, chose to just drop, and the game ended soon thereafter.Our GM started a game with a bunch of players and PCs who didn't know each other.  So we had a Paladin and a Half-Orcish Priest of Gruumsh in a party with my NG Elf, and some other PCs who we never really learned what they were...Problems began early, after the first fight, with the HO trying to take treasure that my Elf was carrying.  This started a long discussion on the division of treasure, which finally resulted in a rather overly-complicated agreement.Despite the HO trying to secretly cast Detect Magic on the treasure that I had gathered from the downed Troll Shaman (which was stupid, because Verbal Components must be cast in a "strong voice", and overhearing normal conversation is DC:0), I let the party know what I had found, passed out the magical bracers and wand, etc., and we rode off...Along the way, the HO asked "Can I see that bow you found?", and I let him.  Later, when we got to where we were going, I asked for it back.  His response was "Sure, come to my room, later.  There's this trick we do with apples."  So, as he left, I used my one Rank of Sleight of Hand, and pulled the bow off his back without him even noticing...A few rounds later, he was back, and angry.  He demanded "his" bow back.  I pointed out that it wasn't his, and we were going to abide by the division of treasure rules that we had all agreed to.  He charged, we rolled Initiative, I won.I threw a Tanglefoot Bag, but it was ineffective, and only slowed him.  His attack was ineffective.  I had asked the GM if there was a window I could toss him out, but he said no.  The PLAYER laughed, and said he'd never had a PC tossed out a window before...  He seemed to find this amusing...  I made it clear to him that *I* did not.  At this point, an NPC servant of the castle's Lord told us to stop fighting.  I did.  The HO's player E-mailed me, saying that if this PC was a problem that he'd drop him, blah, blah, blah...  I reiterated, for the third time, that I had no interest in being part of a group that didn't cooperate.Then the HO attacked, again!  Apparently, he had Improved Grapple, because I didn't get an AoO.  He missed, though.So, at this point, I posted saying that my PC (with Hide maxed out, and a Cloak of Elvenkind) rolled under the table, disappeared, and the DM would tell them what happened, thereafter.  I reminded them all that I had said I wasn't interested in being part of a group that didn't work together, and I dropped.I E-mailed the GM about a month later, and found that the game had died.So, I felt much like you do, about this sort of thing.  Ending the game sounds like a good idea, to me.It seems to me that PC-Killer players don't expect their campaigns to last very long...  If they did, they'd be more interested in hanging onto them...</blockquote>

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