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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Burne" data-source="post: 915833" data-attributes="member: 3450">Looking at the chart Ghaele's are overpowered at 7th level, no doubt about it.  At later levels the downside of ECL races quickly catches up with you.  Main problem at 7th level a Ghaele has 6 HD, while only ending up with 10HD at 20th, but sadly most big ECL classes are designed that way.  My sugestions:Ghaele's are the most powerful at low levels and the least at high.Astral Devas are less powerful than Ghaele's(IMO) and more poweful over all.Truphet Archons are the least powerful at low levels and between Astral Deva amd Ghaele at high levels.If your game is not going to extend to high levels, either say no, or suggest the Truphet Archon.If your game is "going all the way" and you can live with one party member being more powerful till about 11th-12th level, allow the Ghaele or suggest the Astral Deva.If you do go with the Ghaele or astral deva, shaft the player on equipment.  That will help balance the starting inequilty.</blockquote>