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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 4097860" data-attributes="member: 39394">Nice lady, but not a strong gamer.&nbsp; Me, I need to shut up.&nbsp; That's the problem in nutshell.Okay, so there's this player who is in a couple of the games I play in.&nbsp; She seems incapable of getting the numbers to add up correctly for her character on a consistent basis.&nbsp; She's always messing up adding up her bonuses or forgetting a rule.&nbsp; (I swear we have to remind her that she can't move and full attack at least once every session.)&nbsp; Don't get the wrong idea, she's not intentionally cheating.&nbsp; I know because most of the time her mistakes are to her detriment.Here is the thing.&nbsp; I am beginning to get her really angry because I am always asking her to check her work.&nbsp; &quot;Are you sure you added that up right?&quot;&nbsp; I would not do it so often, but it's about 50/50 that I will catch she made a mistake.Often I can tell (or suspect) that she's getting it wrong simply from watching her roll an attack and damage and seeing what the numbers add up to.&nbsp; And it's pretty sad that I can add the numbers in my head and get a higher accuracy rate that her being able to consult her character sheet.&nbsp; Give her credit, she does try to write everything out beforehand, but even then every time her character changes in some way, it's good odds that she's messed up the new formula.&nbsp; (Today, upon being questioned, she hadn't figured out the damage increase from her character getting a belt of giant strength properly.)I am honestly, honestly trying to keep my mouth shut.&nbsp; I know it's especially galling for her when I ask her to confirm something and it turns out she has in fact gotten it right.&nbsp; It would sure annoy me.&nbsp; I don't do it to the other players, because they generally get things right.One point of view might be that I should just keep my mouth shut and let the DM handle it.&nbsp; I try, but then I feel bad letting her short herself on attack rolls and damage all the time because she's forgotten to add in all the fiddley little bonuses that D&amp;D provides.&nbsp; And it should be pointed out that I'm not the only one who corrects her.&nbsp; I probably just do it a little more often.I really wish she'd just tell me off when I push too hard.&nbsp; You'd think that a 50-something Navy veteran wouldn't be shy, and it wouldn't offend me to be cussed out.&nbsp; She just grits her teeth in frustration a lot, though.Sigh.&nbsp; More venting than asking advice here.&nbsp; I feel a little bad about today's game, because I think she left in a bad mood and it might (or might not) be because of me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 4097860, member: 39394"] Nice lady, but not a strong gamer. Me, I need to shut up. That's the problem in nutshell. Okay, so there's this player who is in a couple of the games I play in. She seems incapable of getting the numbers to add up correctly for her character on a consistent basis. She's always messing up adding up her bonuses or forgetting a rule. (I swear we have to remind her that she can't move and full attack at least once every session.) Don't get the wrong idea, she's not intentionally cheating. I know because most of the time her mistakes are to her detriment. Here is the thing. I am beginning to get her really angry because I am always asking her to check her work. "Are you sure you added that up right?" I would not do it so often, but it's about 50/50 that I will catch she made a mistake. Often I can tell (or suspect) that she's getting it wrong simply from watching her roll an attack and damage and seeing what the numbers add up to. And it's pretty sad that I can add the numbers in my head and get a higher accuracy rate that her being able to consult her character sheet. Give her credit, she does try to write everything out beforehand, but even then every time her character changes in some way, it's good odds that she's messed up the new formula. (Today, upon being questioned, she hadn't figured out the damage increase from her character getting a belt of giant strength properly.) I am honestly, honestly trying to keep my mouth shut. I know it's especially galling for her when I ask her to confirm something and it turns out she has in fact gotten it right. It would sure annoy me. I don't do it to the other players, because they generally get things right. One point of view might be that I should just keep my mouth shut and let the DM handle it. I try, but then I feel bad letting her short herself on attack rolls and damage all the time because she's forgotten to add in all the fiddley little bonuses that D&D provides. And it should be pointed out that I'm not the only one who corrects her. I probably just do it a little more often. I really wish she'd just tell me off when I push too hard. You'd think that a 50-something Navy veteran wouldn't be shy, and it wouldn't offend me to be cussed out. She just grits her teeth in frustration a lot, though. Sigh. More venting than asking advice here. I feel a little bad about today's game, because I think she left in a bad mood and it might (or might not) be because of me. [/QUOTE]

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