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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 4098914" data-attributes="member: 39394"><p>Did you ever wonder if that player told you he couldn't be bothered to learn the rules because that was less humiliating than admitting that he had tried really hard to learn the rules and was incapable of doing so? Actually doing something is generally much more conducive to learning something than merely reading about it. If a player can't recall a rule/class feature after three straight sessions of using that rule/class feature, then it's just not something that's going to stick in his head.</p><p></p><p>Not true for everybody, but for a lot of people there is nothing more embarassing and mortifying than sitting in a room full of people that have easily acquired a skill that you have failed to acquire after much effort. Someone in that situation might rather be considered "lazy" than "stupid". (Disclaimer: I don't think not caring about a game enough to remember fiddley rules makes you lazy, and I don't think not being able to remember fiddley rules makes you stupid, but that's easy to say if you're not the one feeling bad about yourself.)</p><p></p><p>That's why I shy away from the idea of treating someone like they're incapable of mastering the rules on their own. It's easy to have a mistake corrected, because anybody can make a mistake. Having to hand over your sheet for review and admitting that you can't do it on your own is humiliating.</p><p></p><p>The funny thing is, I also play with a guy who really is one of the 'don't have time to figure this stuff out on my own' type. He has a busy schedule and usually asks someone to look over his sheet when leveling up and check his math on bonuses. However, once he actually learns a rule he learns it and it sticks in his head. He doesn't show up at game after game asking the same questions and making the same mistakes over and over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 4098914, member: 39394"] Did you ever wonder if that player told you he couldn't be bothered to learn the rules because that was less humiliating than admitting that he had tried really hard to learn the rules and was incapable of doing so? Actually doing something is generally much more conducive to learning something than merely reading about it. If a player can't recall a rule/class feature after three straight sessions of using that rule/class feature, then it's just not something that's going to stick in his head. Not true for everybody, but for a lot of people there is nothing more embarassing and mortifying than sitting in a room full of people that have easily acquired a skill that you have failed to acquire after much effort. Someone in that situation might rather be considered "lazy" than "stupid". (Disclaimer: I don't think not caring about a game enough to remember fiddley rules makes you lazy, and I don't think not being able to remember fiddley rules makes you stupid, but that's easy to say if you're not the one feeling bad about yourself.) That's why I shy away from the idea of treating someone like they're incapable of mastering the rules on their own. It's easy to have a mistake corrected, because anybody can make a mistake. Having to hand over your sheet for review and admitting that you can't do it on your own is humiliating. The funny thing is, I also play with a guy who really is one of the 'don't have time to figure this stuff out on my own' type. He has a busy schedule and usually asks someone to look over his sheet when leveling up and check his math on bonuses. However, once he actually learns a rule he learns it and it sticks in his head. He doesn't show up at game after game asking the same questions and making the same mistakes over and over. [/QUOTE]
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