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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5702416" data-attributes="member: 35909">The rules state flat-out that you can choose to fail a save.&nbsp; At times this is a very good idea.&nbsp; One time my rogue got mentally dominated and was on the verge of killing another party member.&nbsp; The party psion used Time Hop on me to get me out of the battle till the effect wore off / dominator was killed.&nbsp; I asked the DM if I could purposely fail, he said the demon never bothered to order me to resist spells/powers from my allies, so I could.&nbsp; That was definitely a huge help for the party to lessen the number of people trying to kill them temporarily. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I use &quot;taking 1&quot; on skill checks all the time when I know i can automatically beat the given DC.&nbsp; It's really annoying when DMs make you roll for foregone conclusions.&nbsp; Both for the time waste and because...how freaking irritating is it when you roll 20 on something you had in the bag anyway?!Another example is the &quot;dispel magic cannon&quot; my group has used in the past.&nbsp; The basic trick is just failing to dispel an area filled with Explosive Runes so as to set them off on foes in the region.&nbsp; The cannon name just stuck for a particular instance where we used Sculpt Spell to make a dispel in a 120 ft line and wipe out half the army advancing on us in one action.&nbsp; In that case, the DM refused to let me autofail my checks, and ad hoc ruled I could fail a % of the checks based on a Spellcraft roll (higher = more dispel checks failed), which was perfectly reasonable, because unerringly setting them all off would've been crazy.I would also be careful about taking 1 in certain circumstances and limit the benefit to only when you actually roll a 1.&nbsp; For an example...There is a luck feat in C.Scoundrel to once per day turn a natural 1 on an attack roll into a natural 20 (&quot;Make Your Own Luck,&quot; iirc).&nbsp; If someone could choose to just make their roll a 1...I think you see where I'm going with this.So yes, there are perfectly practical reasons to want a 1 sometimes.&nbsp; And the rules generally allow you to fail at things on purpose, just be careful about possible major abuses, like that luck feat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5702416, member: 35909"] The rules state flat-out that you can choose to fail a save. At times this is a very good idea. One time my rogue got mentally dominated and was on the verge of killing another party member. The party psion used Time Hop on me to get me out of the battle till the effect wore off / dominator was killed. I asked the DM if I could purposely fail, he said the demon never bothered to order me to resist spells/powers from my allies, so I could. That was definitely a huge help for the party to lessen the number of people trying to kill them temporarily. :) I use "taking 1" on skill checks all the time when I know i can automatically beat the given DC. It's really annoying when DMs make you roll for foregone conclusions. Both for the time waste and because...how freaking irritating is it when you roll 20 on something you had in the bag anyway?! Another example is the "dispel magic cannon" my group has used in the past. The basic trick is just failing to dispel an area filled with Explosive Runes so as to set them off on foes in the region. The cannon name just stuck for a particular instance where we used Sculpt Spell to make a dispel in a 120 ft line and wipe out half the army advancing on us in one action. In that case, the DM refused to let me autofail my checks, and ad hoc ruled I could fail a % of the checks based on a Spellcraft roll (higher = more dispel checks failed), which was perfectly reasonable, because unerringly setting them all off would've been crazy. I would also be careful about taking 1 in certain circumstances and limit the benefit to only when you actually [i]roll[/i] a 1. For an example...There is a luck feat in C.Scoundrel to once per day turn a natural 1 on an attack roll into a natural 20 ("Make Your Own Luck," iirc). If someone could choose to just make their roll a 1...I think you see where I'm going with this. So yes, there are perfectly practical reasons to want a 1 sometimes. And the rules generally allow you to fail at things on purpose, just be careful about possible major abuses, like that luck feat. [/QUOTE]

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