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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 401573" data-attributes="member: 5171">I do find it a bit hypocritical that the same players who declare loudly that they weren't in that area and who wouldn't have been standing next to blah and shouldn't have been in the area of effect and such, and how dare the DM screw up the rules, are the same players who will take me through the following exchange:Me: Timus, the golem attacks you.  It hits AC 25.Timus: Hit.Me: Okay, it does 17 points damage as its fists slam you backward.  Gryff, your turn.Gryff: I attack the golem.  Does a 32 hit?Me: Yes.Gryff: Great, I do 17 points damage with my +2 battle axe.Timus: Wait, actually, that didn't hit.Me: What didn't hit?  Gryff's attack?Timus: No, I forgot that I had Cat's Grace on -- my AC is actually 23.Me: It hit AC 25.Timus: Oh.Me: Gryff, +2 axe, you said?  The blow seems to glance off, though you're SURE it should have hurt the creature.Gryff: Dang.  CLERIC!  I need enhancement bonuses!Timus: Wait, actually, it has a 20% miss chance.  I forgot I had Blur on as well.Me: [rolls]  It still hit you.Timus: Oh.Me: Sendant, your turn.Sendant: Gryff, what are these "enhancement bonuses" of which you speak?  This sounds like a good time for a Blade Barrier.Gryff: NOT what I meant.Timus: Also, I had Mirror Image up, so it had to roll to see which one of me it hit.Me: Really.  You know what, actually, it deliberately aims for the only one of the potential you's that is blurred -- the REAL you.  And in fact, the mirror images act as a triangulation point that enables it to bypass the blurring.  The golem actually gets a +2 pissing-me-off bonus to hit you as a result.Timus: Was this a bad time to mention that I forgot about my Shield spell?-Tacky</blockquote>

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