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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7630701" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>It's on the GM to say what she means and to use the right wording as far as possible, and there's a great big difference between the following:</p><p></p><p>"The maiden winks at you and melts your heart"</p><p>"The maiden winks at you and tries to melt your heart"</p><p></p><p>The first is an absolute - it's a done deal. Your heart is melted. And most players won't generally accept this or a GM who regularly does this sort of thing.</p><p>The second allows a chance to resist (or not - player's choice), and is the far more common and accepted way to go.</p><p></p><p>Now sometimes a GM will get the wording wrong and say something like in terms of an absolute where it wasn't supposed to be, and a player would ask whether that's what was really meant. No problem there as long as the GM takes ownership of the error.</p><p></p><p>This would depend on whether I-as-GM intended to phrase it as an absolute or not.</p><p></p><p>I'm not perfect - nowhere close, really. Most times if I said something like this the immediate and quite justified response would be "Don't I at least get a saving throw?" at which point I'd realize I'd said it wrong and rephrase (except for the very rare instance where I really did mean it as an absolute; and I'd be saying it out loud this way rather than passing a note as a cue that other PCs would notice the heart-melting and could then - if they wanted - act on it)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7630701, member: 29398"] It's on the GM to say what she means and to use the right wording as far as possible, and there's a great big difference between the following: "The maiden winks at you and melts your heart" "The maiden winks at you and tries to melt your heart" The first is an absolute - it's a done deal. Your heart is melted. And most players won't generally accept this or a GM who regularly does this sort of thing. The second allows a chance to resist (or not - player's choice), and is the far more common and accepted way to go. Now sometimes a GM will get the wording wrong and say something like in terms of an absolute where it wasn't supposed to be, and a player would ask whether that's what was really meant. No problem there as long as the GM takes ownership of the error. This would depend on whether I-as-GM intended to phrase it as an absolute or not. I'm not perfect - nowhere close, really. Most times if I said something like this the immediate and quite justified response would be "Don't I at least get a saving throw?" at which point I'd realize I'd said it wrong and rephrase (except for the very rare instance where I really did mean it as an absolute; and I'd be saying it out loud this way rather than passing a note as a cue that other PCs would notice the heart-melting and could then - if they wanted - act on it) [/QUOTE]
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