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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7631702" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>So to answer the first question, there will be some sort of save, so it will be apparent in the moment if something unusual is happening.  However, the group I've played with has been together for 15 years, and a few of us go back more than twice that.  If they pulled something like that without save or way to know right then, yes I'd extend the trust, because we're all similar enough in playstyle to mesh together, so I know that they wouldn't pull something like that without something special going on.  If I were in a convention game, I'd have no trust.  I almost never play D&D at a convention because of all the bad experiences I've had in the past.</p></blockquote><p></p>