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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7638291" data-attributes="member: 6688277">Good question.If I have understood your side's position (and there is a fairly reasonable possibility I have not as I have only skimmed this thread), is that the player having to make the tough choice between A & B without necessarily a change to the character concept is not considered a challenge. If one accepts that, then yes D&D, in general, doesn't have the necessary mechanics per RAW to put pressure on the player's concept of character.In 5e per RAW, personality characteristics are only utilised via the carrot method: The player roleplays their character by adhering to their ideals, bonds or flaws so they may be rewarded with an inspiration point for good roleplaying. (Even in this instance, DM decides). But there are no mechanics, per RAW at least, that allow for placing fundamental pressure on character concepts. As an aside one of my players has a character with the Bond: Those who fight beside me are those worth dying for.My intention is to challenge this character concept - to place the character in a position where if he (a) chooses to save a former ally, this may result in a loss of influence (mechanical) for the party; or(b) does not choose to save a former ally, which may result in the player having to amend his character's Bond.In (a) the cost is in-game time and a skill challenge used to resolve the possible influence loss suffered.In (b) a singular saving throw (with no proficiency modifier) will resolve if the character's bond will have to be amended. If the player fails the saving check, then he can amend the bond with the table deciding if the new bond is reasonable based on their perception of the character and the events that transpired.Of course my intention is for the player to know the stakes of (a) and (b) beforehand and for me to be completely transparent with how it will play out. Now granted, the above is not RAW and may not be everyone's cup of tea, but the DM empowerment in 5e permits me to bend the rules of the game and I have a table that trusts me so I'm going to run with that. Of course, I also believe my players will enjoy this type of challenge! Out of curiosity, do you consider the above an example of fundamental pressure on the player's concept of the character?</blockquote>

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