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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7641524" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>No, they don't represent Joe's toughness. They're an arbitrary number meant to provide pacing. This is why it's so hard to actually define what hitpoints are in the fiction -- are they meat, or skill, or divine protection, or armor, or luck? Or all of that? If luck, why can't luck change because you've run into seriously powerful heroes and your luck has run out?</p><p></p><p>Hit points just pace fights. They don't represent anything. You yourself are fine with variable hitpoints for the same creature type -- Joe's brother can have many more or many less hitpoints than Joe. This isn't because Joe's brother is less tough -- his stats otherwise are the same. Joe's brother has the same saves, the same damage, the same AC, all the same except Joe's brother's pacing time to swordinnahead is less.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Joe is not the same as Bob. I mean, we can already tell this because Joe doesn't get XP, or have rolled stats, or a class. You're focusing on hp as if this is the one true thread throughout while ignoring all the other things that cut against this argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7641524, member: 16814"] No, they don't represent Joe's toughness. They're an arbitrary number meant to provide pacing. This is why it's so hard to actually define what hitpoints are in the fiction -- are they meat, or skill, or divine protection, or armor, or luck? Or all of that? If luck, why can't luck change because you've run into seriously powerful heroes and your luck has run out? Hit points just pace fights. They don't represent anything. You yourself are fine with variable hitpoints for the same creature type -- Joe's brother can have many more or many less hitpoints than Joe. This isn't because Joe's brother is less tough -- his stats otherwise are the same. Joe's brother has the same saves, the same damage, the same AC, all the same except Joe's brother's pacing time to swordinnahead is less. Joe is not the same as Bob. I mean, we can already tell this because Joe doesn't get XP, or have rolled stats, or a class. You're focusing on hp as if this is the one true thread throughout while ignoring all the other things that cut against this argument. [/QUOTE]
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