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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 1933261" data-attributes="member: 813"><p>Actually I think there is more than one point and some people are focusing more on a point you are focusing less on.</p><p>For all the guidance Helm has given him, the PC could assume they were to go there to get the head cleric go do something. Remember, Helm said go to three temples. Not go to a temple, spend time in Faerie, go to another temple, lollygag in Hell, go to another temple. Perhaps the PC thinks he must get to the three temples before going elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>Also, expectant pauses require that the player interpret them as expectant and not just awkward. Or made for emphasis. "I WILL GO!" (pause - don't even think of naysaying me) "That's settled." We don't know how well this was conveyed nor how perceptive the player is.</p><p>I don't have the PrC in front of me, do it actually say that is what Divine Champions do? Rescue fellow worshipers?</p><p></p><p>The thing I find annoying is the DM saying: "And that's when he issued his final order, which I left as vague and open to interpretation as I could." Now, I'm not saying all Lawful gods are strict by-the-book types. But this is Helm. I don't think Helmite priests should be giving orders with wiggle room in them. If the priest wanted them to go, he should have said so. He should not have issued a purposely vague order that he <em>expects</em> a divine champion to disobey. I find that incredulous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 1933261, member: 813"] Actually I think there is more than one point and some people are focusing more on a point you are focusing less on. For all the guidance Helm has given him, the PC could assume they were to go there to get the head cleric go do something. Remember, Helm said go to three temples. Not go to a temple, spend time in Faerie, go to another temple, lollygag in Hell, go to another temple. Perhaps the PC thinks he must get to the three temples before going elsewhere. Also, expectant pauses require that the player interpret them as expectant and not just awkward. Or made for emphasis. "I WILL GO!" (pause - don't even think of naysaying me) "That's settled." We don't know how well this was conveyed nor how perceptive the player is. I don't have the PrC in front of me, do it actually say that is what Divine Champions do? Rescue fellow worshipers? The thing I find annoying is the DM saying: "And that's when he issued his final order, which I left as vague and open to interpretation as I could." Now, I'm not saying all Lawful gods are strict by-the-book types. But this is Helm. I don't think Helmite priests should be giving orders with wiggle room in them. If the priest wanted them to go, he should have said so. He should not have issued a purposely vague order that he [i]expects[/i] a divine champion to disobey. I find that incredulous. [/QUOTE]
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