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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1934195" data-attributes="member: 16936">Absolutely.  And there are a lot of other intangibles here, as well; if the head cleric outranks the divine champion (or the divine champion's player thinks the head cleric outranks him and no one tells him otherwise), he might very well assume that it's not his place to do anything other than make his report and wait for further orders.  If the head cleric wanted him to do something, he would've given the order, not screwed around with expectant pauses and significant glances or crossing his fingers and hoping that the divine champion would step up to the plate without prompting.But it's probably safest and simplest to just say that mistakes were made on both sides.  The player's interpretation of what's going on and what's important is clearly not the same as the GM's interpretation, and so what looks to the GM to be a classic plot hook that was utterly ignored looks to the player like an awkward, unplanned sidetrack that had nothing to do with the important stuff.Which may be a point in favor of being heavy-handed about these kinds of things.  If your goal as a GM is to get the party to do something they're obviously not planning on doing, there's not much percentage in trying to "give them another chance to change their minds" indirectly.  Go ahead and be direct.  Be forceful.  Try and figure out what obstacle is keeping them from committing to the plot, and clear it away (remember, you can always find a place to stick it into the game later on, after it's too late for them to back out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).  Or maybe even ask the players a bunch of questions out-of-character to find out why they don't like the plot hook and what might work better...something which a lot of players are actually willing to discuss.And if you're a player and the GM seems to be dangling a Bad Idea under your nose and getting pouty because you're ignoring it, make sure he understands why your PC isn't interested.  Maybe even ask some pointed questions about the Bad Idea in question as it relates to your character, so you can be sure that your understanding of the setting isn't that different from the GM's.  Ask about the obstacles in your character's way, the abilities your character has, and whether you're missing some obvious application that makes the obstacles less forbidding than they might seem at first glance.  (Hey, why not?  Lots of GMs actually like answering those questions and won't just blow them off.)--i always liked games where the gm knew what my character wanted and planned appropriatelyryan</blockquote>

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