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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 3851578" data-attributes="member: 18549"><p>That is their response in the other save-or-die thread to complaints about the automatic lethality of the bodak: that the PCs should have researched that enemy so that they know to have Death Ward active, for example. They hedged this position by mentioning that the bodak shouldn't be some kind of wandering monster, but a creature which you can, in fact, learn about the presence of beforehand, so that preparation is possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My point is simply that if the onus to deal with SoD effects is on the PCs and their preparation or lack thereof, then BBEGs should be taking similar preparations, including researching possible threats. However, having researched those threats (i.e. the PCs), they will know that having a pile of SoD spells, plus perhaps some debuffs and dispels to ensure that the SoDs work, is totally reasonable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm arguing from the BBEG's perception of the likelihood of future threats. If he believes that the heart of his carefully-crafted evil organization (i.e. him) is at lethal risk from a credible threat, it would be irrational to hold back, even if there was an outside chance of another threat later. And if the PCs are the first to violate his sanctum, or even if they're not the first, but an invasion is a fairly rare event, he's not going to perceive the risk of another attack before he can recover his spent resources as a significant one.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that it's believable to suggest that a BBEG would not use SoDs because he can't gauge the threat the PCs bring, and might face more challenges later that day, so I don't think it's a good argument for the inclusion of SoDs, which is how it's being presented.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 3851578, member: 18549"] That is their response in the other save-or-die thread to complaints about the automatic lethality of the bodak: that the PCs should have researched that enemy so that they know to have Death Ward active, for example. They hedged this position by mentioning that the bodak shouldn't be some kind of wandering monster, but a creature which you can, in fact, learn about the presence of beforehand, so that preparation is possible. My point is simply that if the onus to deal with SoD effects is on the PCs and their preparation or lack thereof, then BBEGs should be taking similar preparations, including researching possible threats. However, having researched those threats (i.e. the PCs), they will know that having a pile of SoD spells, plus perhaps some debuffs and dispels to ensure that the SoDs work, is totally reasonable. I'm arguing from the BBEG's perception of the likelihood of future threats. If he believes that the heart of his carefully-crafted evil organization (i.e. him) is at lethal risk from a credible threat, it would be irrational to hold back, even if there was an outside chance of another threat later. And if the PCs are the first to violate his sanctum, or even if they're not the first, but an invasion is a fairly rare event, he's not going to perceive the risk of another attack before he can recover his spent resources as a significant one. I don't think that it's believable to suggest that a BBEG would not use SoDs because he can't gauge the threat the PCs bring, and might face more challenges later that day, so I don't think it's a good argument for the inclusion of SoDs, which is how it's being presented. [/QUOTE]
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