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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3854811" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p>Explain a mistake that's so big, you can no longer be a protagonist after making it.</p><p></p><p>To qualify, it of course has to be a bigger mistake than every mistake ever made by a protagonist in a fantasy book, film or electronic game - I'll limit it to fantasy to narrow the field a bit - who remains a protagonist till the end of the story.</p><p></p><p>Fritz Lieber's Swords stories - Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser often underestimated the opposition or leaped into a situation unprepared or otherwise stuck their necks out in ways that by rights should have killed them.</p><p></p><p>Robert E. Howard's Conan yarns - Conan was a bit more cautious, but still bit off more than he could chew and only escaped by luck and quickness on more than a few occasions.</p><p></p><p>The Lord of the Rings - Frodo put on the One Ring multiple times and ultimately wore it and would have used it had not Gollum bitten it off.</p><p></p><p>Jack Vance's Dying Earth - Cugel the Clever's entire life story was one bit of petty, thuggish foolishness after another, which he survived as much by blind luck as skill.</p><p></p><p>Lunar: Silver Star Story - Alex of Burg trusted Magic Emperor Ghaleon and led him right to the sanctuary of one of the four dragons of Althena, inadvertently turning Luna/Althena over to him at the same time.</p><p></p><p>Xenogears - Bart Fatima repeatedly did moronic things that put his and other protagonists' lives at serious risk.</p><p></p><p>That's just off the top of my head. Fantasy is FULL of characters who make decisions that range from ill-advised (practically every action taken by a hero!) to downright moronic. Most of those characters survive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 3854811, member: 22882"] Explain a mistake that's so big, you can no longer be a protagonist after making it. To qualify, it of course has to be a bigger mistake than every mistake ever made by a protagonist in a fantasy book, film or electronic game - I'll limit it to fantasy to narrow the field a bit - who remains a protagonist till the end of the story. Fritz Lieber's Swords stories - Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser often underestimated the opposition or leaped into a situation unprepared or otherwise stuck their necks out in ways that by rights should have killed them. Robert E. Howard's Conan yarns - Conan was a bit more cautious, but still bit off more than he could chew and only escaped by luck and quickness on more than a few occasions. The Lord of the Rings - Frodo put on the One Ring multiple times and ultimately wore it and would have used it had not Gollum bitten it off. Jack Vance's Dying Earth - Cugel the Clever's entire life story was one bit of petty, thuggish foolishness after another, which he survived as much by blind luck as skill. Lunar: Silver Star Story - Alex of Burg trusted Magic Emperor Ghaleon and led him right to the sanctuary of one of the four dragons of Althena, inadvertently turning Luna/Althena over to him at the same time. Xenogears - Bart Fatima repeatedly did moronic things that put his and other protagonists' lives at serious risk. That's just off the top of my head. Fantasy is FULL of characters who make decisions that range from ill-advised (practically every action taken by a hero!) to downright moronic. Most of those characters survive. [/QUOTE]
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