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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 3854892" data-attributes="member: 40961">Last campaign was a war campaign.  Enemy spellcasters were attached to enemy squads in bulk.  They made up about 1 out of ever 12 hobgoblin soldiers.This meant that about 4 to 8 spells were cast on the PCs per day.  We'll call it 6 as an average.Lets say I played the hobgoblins intelligently, instead of fun-but-really-stupid.Casting against the PC with the lowest save versus the chosen spell would yield about a 50/50 chance of the PC failing the save, with the odds checked about 6 times per day..5^6=.0156251-.015626That's a 98.4375% chance that at least one PC would die on a given day.So it might as well be "just die" in the long term.Even if I made the hobgoblins a little dumber, and had them cast against targets with strong saves instead of the perfectly available targets with weak saves, things don't get much better.  A strong save often has about a 70% chance of success.  That yields an 88.2351% chance of at least one PC death per day.If I reduced the hobgoblins selection of save-or-die to every other spell, it would just mean that those same odds would be invoked... every two days.This is all worth keeping in mind when discussing saving throws, I think.</blockquote>