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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3856338" data-attributes="member: 2011">Nope. Totally false.The curse effect in Harry Potter is &quot;save if the author wants you to save&quot;.The save or die effect in DND is not &quot;save if the DM wants you to save&quot;. Instead, it is &quot;save if you roll high enough&quot;.Two totally different mechanics and nowhere near each other except for the potential result.To 100% emulate the curse in Harry Potter, a spell would have to read &quot;Saving Throw: Death if the DM decides, Life if the DM decides, player does not get to roll&quot;. That's not save or die. Not even close.If the DM wants the player to save after he has an NPC cast a save or die spell at the player and the player rolls a 1, the DM has to go through hoops (i.e. make crap up) to suddenly figure out a way to prevent insta-death.So, the literary examples are all totally invalid because all of the literary examples are totally controlled by the author whereas DND is not totally controlled by the DM. The players and the dice do have a say in DND results, not just the DM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3856338, member: 2011"] Nope. Totally false. The curse effect in Harry Potter is "save if the author wants you to save". The save or die effect in DND is not "save if the DM wants you to save". Instead, it is "save if you roll high enough". Two totally different mechanics and nowhere near each other except for the potential result. To 100% emulate the curse in Harry Potter, a spell would have to read "Saving Throw: Death if the DM decides, Life if the DM decides, player does not get to roll". That's not save or die. Not even close. If the DM wants the player to save after he has an NPC cast a save or die spell at the player and the player rolls a 1, the DM has to go through hoops (i.e. make crap up) to suddenly figure out a way to prevent insta-death. So, the literary examples are all totally invalid because all of the literary examples are totally controlled by the author whereas DND is not totally controlled by the DM. The players and the dice do have a say in DND results, not just the DM. [/QUOTE]

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