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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3873946" data-attributes="member: 18280">If a rule requires special tap dancing by the DM to work, is it a good rule?&nbsp; Is a system that requires all sorts of fiddling in order to bring it back in line with its expected results well designed?IMO, no.&nbsp; A system should be usable out of the box.&nbsp; I shouldn't have to do all sorts of extra work in order to determine a monster's CR, or an encounter's EL.&nbsp; If the encounter is to be with a group of monsters, I shouldn't also have to make sure that the water is 72 degrees, there is a slight chop and overcast sky as well in order to use CR/EL.&nbsp; The rules shouldn't force me to do all this extra work, just to make up for faulty mechanics.&nbsp; Fix the mechanics in the first place and we're good.Wow, great system.&nbsp;&nbsp; :\EDIT:&nbsp; BTW, what does &quot;Now, we have claims that CR doesn't work&quot; mean, Hussar?&nbsp; What do you mean by &quot;Now&quot;?&nbsp; People have been saying CR doesn't work since the shiny newness of 3.0 wore off.&nbsp; People have been comparing CR/EL to a steaming pile of bantha poodoo for years.&nbsp; How many threads have you posted in defending CR already?&nbsp; Over how many years?&quot;Now&quot; we have claims that CR doesn't work?For shame.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3873946, member: 18280"] If a rule requires special tap dancing by the DM to work, is it a good rule? Is a system that requires all sorts of fiddling in order to bring it back in line with its expected results well designed? IMO, no. A system should be usable out of the box. I shouldn't have to do all sorts of extra work in order to determine a monster's CR, or an encounter's EL. If the encounter is to be with a group of monsters, I shouldn't also have to make sure that the water is 72 degrees, there is a slight chop and overcast sky as well in order to use CR/EL. The rules shouldn't force me to do all this extra work, just to make up for faulty mechanics. Fix the mechanics in the first place and we're good. Wow, great system. :\ EDIT: BTW, what does "Now, we have claims that CR doesn't work" mean, Hussar? What do you mean by "Now"? People have been saying CR doesn't work since the shiny newness of 3.0 wore off. People have been comparing CR/EL to a steaming pile of bantha poodoo for [i]years[/i]. How many threads have you posted in defending CR already? Over how many years? "Now" we have claims that CR doesn't work? For shame. RC [/QUOTE]

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