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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7105508" data-attributes="member: 20564">My players don't know that they have the phylactery of a lesser lich that they previously killed.&nbsp; Not someone who would be a challenge to the party by herself.&nbsp; So, how does a lich manifest from it's phylactery?&nbsp; I'm fine pulling inspiration from other editions or games to make it interesting, they never had to deal with it before.Or rather, not her real phylactery.&nbsp; They pulled her soul into a item but it won't be able to contain it for long, making a temporary phylactery.&nbsp; If that broke her connection to her real phylactery is unknown, whatever works better for plot.So, what fun would you have?&nbsp; With this particular bunch I wouldn't want something silent with no chance of observation like spying from within (if that's even possible).&nbsp; But I'm fine doing things like having her manifest in dreams first - the item she's in can't really contain her.UPDATE:&nbsp; She was part of ancient set of ruins that was raised out of the earth,&nbsp; she has no access to any organization outside it (which the PCs&nbsp; destroyed in spectacular manner) nor a current understanding of the&nbsp; &quot;modern&quot; world.&nbsp; Also, she's significantly weaker than the PCs in a straight up fight, say about even for two 8th level PCs, the group is five 11th level PCs.&nbsp; Though she does have good abilities to command and buff other undead.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7105508, member: 20564"] My players don't know that they have the phylactery of a lesser lich that they previously killed. Not someone who would be a challenge to the party by herself. So, how does a lich manifest from it's phylactery? I'm fine pulling inspiration from other editions or games to make it interesting, they never had to deal with it before. Or rather, not her real phylactery. They pulled her soul into a item but it won't be able to contain it for long, making a temporary phylactery. If that broke her connection to her real phylactery is unknown, whatever works better for plot. So, what fun would you have? With this particular bunch I wouldn't want something silent with no chance of observation like spying from within (if that's even possible). But I'm fine doing things like having her manifest in dreams first - the item she's in can't really contain her. UPDATE: She was part of ancient set of ruins that was raised out of the earth, she has no access to any organization outside it (which the PCs destroyed in spectacular manner) nor a current understanding of the "modern" world. Also, she's significantly weaker than the PCs in a straight up fight, say about even for two 8th level PCs, the group is five 11th level PCs. Though she does have good abilities to command and buff other undead. [/QUOTE]

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