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<blockquote data-quote="The-Magic-Sword" data-source="post: 8266645" data-attributes="member: 6801252"><p>While some of his points are well taken, and I'm sure no one here is really under any illusions about how negative some of it is phrased or is trying to insult anyone else, I can't help but notice the way his terminology is toxic in another way. It feels like it grooms the reader to an extent, conditioning them to internalize the framework through its use of medical and purity centric language, and look down on play from other aesthetic movements in an especially contemptuous way.</p><p></p><p>"Degenerate"</p><p>"Bitter"</p><p>"Unhygienic (that's where this one came from too right?)"</p><p>"Brain Damage"</p><p></p><p>They condition one to think of differing play styles and viewpoints, and a lack of purity of agenda, in a... very problematic way, I'm sharply reminded of language traditionally used to police 'deviance' in mid century psychology literature. It also conditions readers to see very clear right and wrong ways, and to police those ways--whereas maybe there's more than one way to skin the cat of competing play agendas in traditional games. I'd be very careful of using his vocabulary uncritically.</p><p></p><p>I say this as someone whose enjoyed playing Masks for a while, and who just picked up BITD because it sounds awesome and so far as I'm reading it, am not disappointed.</p><p></p><p>edit: I just found the original post about 'brain damage' jesus christ, he straight up writes like a supremacist, like in the sense of using the same tactics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The-Magic-Sword, post: 8266645, member: 6801252"] While some of his points are well taken, and I'm sure no one here is really under any illusions about how negative some of it is phrased or is trying to insult anyone else, I can't help but notice the way his terminology is toxic in another way. It feels like it grooms the reader to an extent, conditioning them to internalize the framework through its use of medical and purity centric language, and look down on play from other aesthetic movements in an especially contemptuous way. "Degenerate" "Bitter" "Unhygienic (that's where this one came from too right?)" "Brain Damage" They condition one to think of differing play styles and viewpoints, and a lack of purity of agenda, in a... very problematic way, I'm sharply reminded of language traditionally used to police 'deviance' in mid century psychology literature. It also conditions readers to see very clear right and wrong ways, and to police those ways--whereas maybe there's more than one way to skin the cat of competing play agendas in traditional games. I'd be very careful of using his vocabulary uncritically. I say this as someone whose enjoyed playing Masks for a while, and who just picked up BITD because it sounds awesome and so far as I'm reading it, am not disappointed. edit: I just found the original post about 'brain damage' jesus christ, he straight up writes like a supremacist, like in the sense of using the same tactics. [/QUOTE]
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