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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6342067" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah, but it also provides evidence exactly as concrete that some stuff will be pretty face-palm-y, like the Eldritch Knight* which is an astonishing waste-of-space (spoiler: basically it's a 3E-style Fighter/Mage but slightly less crummy - not a lot, but a little - it still has no magic at all until level 3!), that the Warlord stuff for the Battle Master is very strictly limited (goodbye visions of Kaladin from the Stormlight Archive!), and that the Champion actually represents that BEST Fighter for non-combat, non-magic stuff, not the worst! So there's definitely positive and negative. I do agree that the Shadow Monk was a very welcome surprise, awesome actually (spoiler: it's a ninja, replete with 1980s-style "ninja magic", the text even says so! Well, the ninja bit anyway), and the Totem Barbarian is quite magical, but as I noted, is bizarre because Barbarians as a whole are great at tanking damage, and kind of "meh" at dealing it (?!?!!?!?!?) and they dropped the MUCH cooler Hawk totem in favour of lame ol' Eagle (thus killing DEX Barbs as discussed). Bardic Inspiration is also crap but I kind of have a faint hope that they changed that again after this because seriously? Giving out +1d6 3x a day when the Cleric can give out +1d4 to 3 people pretty much every COMBAT a day is just awful. Especially as you have to guess whether to use it or not before you know whether it will have much value. If he got 3x+ every short rest at a level below 15 that might be less awful (still hilariously inferior to Bless for combat!).</p><p></p><p>Still, overall classes broadly improved. Delighted to see a really cool Transmuter, and the love lavished on the Warlock was surprising and cool. Rangers suck a lot less though goddamn it Drizzt is apparently cheating by being both a Hunter AND a Beastmaster Ranger to judge from their abilities!</p><p></p><p>* = ULTRA TANGENT MODE ENGAGED - Why can WotC never come up with a good name for their Fighter/Mage? It's always terrible! The Eldritch Knight is not particularly "eldritch" (i.e. unearthly, alien, foreign) nor is he on any level, a knight, so he has no "description" excuse. He's out there in the garden with the Swordmage (uggggh), Hexblade (super-uuuuggggghh), Spellsword (gaaaaawd) and Duskblade (jebus caleebus). Even the Elven Bladesinger is looking down his nose at these freaks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6342067, member: 18"] Yeah, but it also provides evidence exactly as concrete that some stuff will be pretty face-palm-y, like the Eldritch Knight* which is an astonishing waste-of-space (spoiler: basically it's a 3E-style Fighter/Mage but slightly less crummy - not a lot, but a little - it still has no magic at all until level 3!), that the Warlord stuff for the Battle Master is very strictly limited (goodbye visions of Kaladin from the Stormlight Archive!), and that the Champion actually represents that BEST Fighter for non-combat, non-magic stuff, not the worst! So there's definitely positive and negative. I do agree that the Shadow Monk was a very welcome surprise, awesome actually (spoiler: it's a ninja, replete with 1980s-style "ninja magic", the text even says so! Well, the ninja bit anyway), and the Totem Barbarian is quite magical, but as I noted, is bizarre because Barbarians as a whole are great at tanking damage, and kind of "meh" at dealing it (?!?!!?!?!?) and they dropped the MUCH cooler Hawk totem in favour of lame ol' Eagle (thus killing DEX Barbs as discussed). Bardic Inspiration is also crap but I kind of have a faint hope that they changed that again after this because seriously? Giving out +1d6 3x a day when the Cleric can give out +1d4 to 3 people pretty much every COMBAT a day is just awful. Especially as you have to guess whether to use it or not before you know whether it will have much value. If he got 3x+ every short rest at a level below 15 that might be less awful (still hilariously inferior to Bless for combat!). Still, overall classes broadly improved. Delighted to see a really cool Transmuter, and the love lavished on the Warlock was surprising and cool. Rangers suck a lot less though goddamn it Drizzt is apparently cheating by being both a Hunter AND a Beastmaster Ranger to judge from their abilities! * = ULTRA TANGENT MODE ENGAGED - Why can WotC never come up with a good name for their Fighter/Mage? It's always terrible! The Eldritch Knight is not particularly "eldritch" (i.e. unearthly, alien, foreign) nor is he on any level, a knight, so he has no "description" excuse. He's out there in the garden with the Swordmage (uggggh), Hexblade (super-uuuuggggghh), Spellsword (gaaaaawd) and Duskblade (jebus caleebus). Even the Elven Bladesinger is looking down his nose at these freaks. [/QUOTE]
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